[Editor’s Note: This is a republished post from Physician on FIRE, a member of The White Coat Investor Network. The original post ran here, but if you missed it the first time, it’s new to you! This one is all about the best (and worst) ways to manage your investments. Enjoy!]
I’ve written a few Top 5 posts so far, and the 5 top items have generally been listed in no particular order. That won’t be the case today. Presenting, from best to worst, the Top 5 ways to manage your money:
# 1 DIY (Do It Yourself)
Invest in low cost stock and bond funds. Diversify. Invest early and often. Know the tax implications. Create an Investor Policy Statement with a thoughtful asset allocation for your portfolio. Read a recommended book or three. Avoid costly mistakes.
Acknowledge that you don’t know what you don’t know, like the future for example. Educate yourself. Understand that time in the market beats timing the market. When you have a question, you ask it in the Bogleheads Forum and get free advice from intelligent and experienced investors, several of whom have published successful investment books. To get started, see my comprehensive 20 Steps to Effective DIY Investing.
# 2 Tie (RoboAdvisor, Hourly Rate Financial Planner)
Either an hourly rate financial advisor or roboadviser, such as Betterment or Wealthfront can supplement a DIY approach. I’m calling it a tie, although there are certainly pros and cons to each. The theme of this list is going to be lowest cost to highest cost. Which of these comes out ahead depends on your net worth, since the roboadvisor will charge a very small portion of your invested assets, while the hourly rate advisor will charge… wait for it… wait for it …an hourly rate.
If you choose to go either route (or both as they are not mutually exclusive), you had better have at least a basic understanding of your finances. You don’t have to be as well versed as the 100% DIY investor, but you need to know enough to understand what’s going on with your money. The human is going to be better able to talk you through this compared to the robot. The robot might be a better dancer.
# 3 Fee-only Financial Advisor
Consult with a fee-only advisor with a fiduciary responsibility. Such an advisor may charge an AUM fee (Assets Under Management), which can really add up, particularly when you have a high enough net worth to retire. On the plus side, a fiduciary is required by law to disclose any conflict of interest and has a “duty to care” about your portfolio and it’s appropriateness. The advisor will not be paid commissions and the products you purchase ought to be low cost. Your incentives are reasonably well aligned. As your net worth grows, the advisor’s fee typically grows right along with it. This is a reasonable option for someone who likes to be more hands-off when it comes to personal finance.
Ideally, you will like this advisor as a person. You will be contributing handsomely to his or her retirement. A $3 million dollar nest egg with a typical 1% AUM fee generates $30,000 a year for the advisor, and comes directly from your retirement stash. Think about that.
# 4 The Friendly Downhome / Advisor / Planner / “Money Guy”
Invest with the friendly neighborhood insurance salesman fee-based financial planner, or whatever designation they are going by these days. This is an individual who does not have a fiduciary responsibility, but is held to a “suitability” standard, which is much less rigorous.
Expect to be pitched whole life insurance and annuities. You can expect to be invested in “suitable” mutual funds with high expense ratios, 12b-1 fees, and perhaps a front or back load. The layer cake of fees may also include an AUM fee, and you can expect to pay a fee to transfer your money out when you realize that half of your investment gains are going into the smiling advisor’s pocket.
It can be hard to say “no” to this person. He’s your son’s soccer coach. She helped organize the church bazaar. He was a drinking buddy in high school college, although it took him six years to graduate. And he’s a good salesman, which is what makes him successful. You can do worse than to sign on with her, but you can do much better.
# 5 DIY (Do It Yourself)
Invest with emotion. Get in while the getting’ is good (buy high). Get out when the bottom drops out (sell low). Put all your eggs in one basket, and perhaps take on debt to put a couple of someone else’s eggs in there on margin. Buy the stocks recommended by the loud man on the television.
Pay for the newsletter and buy the sure-things recommended there. Chase returns. Worry not about tax implications. The rich need to pay their fair share, and you’re a hot streak away from being rich. Invest in your buddy’s latest business. He’s due for success this time.
I kid, but studies have shown that the average investor underperforms the indexes by 4% to 7% by making many of these same poor choices. DIY can be good. DIY can also be very, very bad.
Managing Investment Costs is Key
My rank order is essentially a list of the least costly (to your portfolio) to the most costly. To be fair, options 1 and 2 require the investor to have gained a working knowledge of investing and other matters related to personal finance. To come out ahead, you need to be have a sound plan, and be willing to stick to it through thick and thin. It’s not brain surgery, but gaining that knowledge takes requires some level of interest and a fair amount of time.
Option 3 can become costly, particularly as your assets grow, but it can also save someone a lot of time and prevent a busy professional from making bad choices (see options 4 and 5). I point out the fact that it can be expensive, but there are professionals who manage sizable portfolios for a lower fee. Even a 1% fee that prevents you from trailing the indexes by 4% to 7% is an excellent investment. NAPFA is one resource to find a fee-only advisor.
Option 4 sounds like a really bad idea when I describe it this way, and it’s how many truly oblivious investors (but not The Oblivious Investor Mike Piper) have their money managed. The storefronts are everywhere and the people inside the store are gregarious. All the best salesman are. They may be good people, but if their luxurious vacations and new F-150s are being financed by their fees, which come from your pocket, how can they truly have your best interest in mind? A conflict of interest gets in the way of sound financial principles. Your incentives are misaligned.
Option 5 is truly the worst and is frighteningly common as well. The White Coat Investor posted a list of the worst financial mistakes by physicians. It is long and frightful. Learn from their mistakes. Don’t make them.
What do you think? What are the best and worst ways to invest and why? Comment below!
Can you suggest some hourly financial planners in the Boston /northeast?
I keep a list of advisors/advertisers I’ve vetted here: https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/financial-advisors/
I used to spend quite a bit of time trying to line people up with local advisors, but it just became too much work to do for free. Even now, I realize I dramatically undercharge(d) for that service. Harry Sit has moved into that business, charging $200 to line you up with a “advice-only” advisor. Even that is really cheap. I had someone apply to advertise with me recently who charges the advisor an ongoing 0.25% a year (or 1/4 of ongoing hourly fees) for a referral to them. Obviously, the advisor has to either eat that or pass it on to you!
If you’d like to search yourself, you might try the NAPFA site. I’ve used the DFA site before, but very few of them are interested in offering advice on an hourly basis.
You can also just use good old google searching for “fee-only” advisors and then researching their web site and their ADV2 to see if they’ll work for an hourly rate.
There is another category of advisory service, but I suppose it would properly be thought of as a supplement to the responsible DIY approach. I’m referring to Vanguard’s free financial planning support. (I imagine the other mutual fund families offer something similar, but I am a long term Vanguard investor.) It offers “financial engines” for DIY analysis as well, but I am focused here on their free advisory service for Flagship members. Note: Flagship is a threshold category for Vanguard that requires $1M under management. The team that offers portfolio management services there will give Flagship members a free portfolio review and recommend allocations annually. It involves a fairly comprehensive report and and in depth conversation with a planner to discuss options. It is still up to the investor to make any final decisions.
Another great suggestion. They also offer ongoing assistance for 0.3% a year, which is awfully competitive with roboadvisors.
I may take them up on that. I’m comfortable with my own DIY plan, but it would be interesting to hear a professional’s perspective. And hopefully some validation of what I’m doing as fairly consistent with their recommendations.
Thanks for the tip, Larry!
-PoF
“Buy the stocks recommended by the loud man on the television.” Ha I think we all know who this loud sledgehammer wielding man is. Though he’s probably making more money than any of us ever will!
I’m firmly in the DIY #1 camp but I’ve noticed most of my friends and family are in camp #4. They’ll go with the local guy who is a friend of a friend or who goes to their church or mosque. This can be a mistake because you will usually get sold something you don’t need and it’s very difficult to make a clean break from these people.
SELL! SELL!!!
Yes, that guy. I wouldn’t want to name names, but his initials are Jim Cramer. 😉
[Ad hominem attack removed.] I think [Cramer’s] newsletter only has made 1-2%
I try and take investing advise from people who have made more money than me by investing their own money.
I’ve been with Evanson Asset Management since about 2000. Mainly a fixed annual retainer fee approach for portfolio construction, management, with access to Dimensional Fund Advisor low cost, passively constructed mutual funds [available through DFA approved RIAs, certain employer retirement plans, institutions in $1M – $5M purchase quantities, etc.]. Arrangements are through institutional accounts TD Ameritrade, Schwab and, I believe, Fidelity and Vanguard.
As a legacy client, I pay a fixed $1,000/year-$250/quarter. I believe current fees for new clients may be twice to four times as much depending on account size and other factors. Evanson has negotiated lower transaction fees for purchase and sale of DFA mutual funds with TD Ameritrade [$20/transaction] and possibly the others.
One of Evanson’s employees is a Certified Financial Planner and can provide financial planning services at additional cost on an hourly basis, about $125 – $150/hour.
Evanson is located in Monterey/Carmel, California, so most communications are by phone, mail or electronic. I have found this very acceptable for my needs.
You can explore more at https://www.evansonasset.com/ .
Rick Ferri, Portfolio Solutions, is another firm you might consider, https://portfoliosolutions.com/.
Some other sources you may want to explore:
http://www.garrettplanningnetwork.com/
https://www.napfa.org/
http://www.feeonlynetwork.com/ma-financial-planner
Good luck.
Some good suggestions there. Always been pleased with Evanson as a low-cost provider. I think I even tried to bring him on as an advertiser once, but there wasn’t much interest there. When you treat people well and charge low fees your practice tends to fill pretty quickly and you don’t need to advertise I guess.
One note is that Rick Ferri is not Portfolio Solutions any more. Last I heard, he was RVing around the company and Portfolio Solutions is under different ownership. Doesn’t mean it isn’t a good firm, but it’s not Rick Ferri.
Thanks for all the advice. I actually use both Portfolio Solutions and Vanguard as mentioned above but neither company has the in depth skill I am looking for. The analyses they provide are fairly cookie cutter and don’t address a lot of tax issues. The underlying assumptions they make are not always clear. The monte carlo type analysis they do, gives such broad results, it is almost useless. I’m looking for someone that probably does not exist: Tax advisor, Estate Planner, Financial advisor, CPA, with experience and common sense.
Ha ha. You’re right, it doesn’t exist. You’ll need to hire a team to get all that.
Yes, Rick is making me jealous, blogging about his RV trip around the country @ http://50-50.us/
Those fees are fantastically low. If you’re paying 1% AUM fees on $2M to $5M (common numbers most physicians aim to have at retirement), you’re looking a t $20,000 to $50,000 a year to manage the portfolio.