[Update Prior to Publication: I first wrote this post a couple of months ago. It was written now that after several years of investing with, monitoring, and writing about RealtyShares, I was finally comfortable giving them a pretty strong recommendation. I had been round trip with four debt investments and an equity investment and the last of my six was paying as expected. They had one of the highest volumes for investments and even those who monitor the industry closely weren't aware they were rapidly running out of operating capital. It seemed like a decent advertising partnership for The White Coat Investor and I could easily write about my own experience there. Then a few weeks ago, after I'd written this post but before it ran, a bomb dropped. It turned out RealtyShares spent way too much money trying to grow too fast. They'd blown through $63 Million and had run out of investors' money in the company itself. Like Icarus, it seems they had flown too close to the sun.
Now, we always knew that of the 120+ real estate crowdfunding websites out there that there were going to be a few casualties. In fact, I expected 90% of them to fail or consolidate over the next decade or so as this brand new industry matured. But I'll be honest, I thought RealtyShares would be one of the survivors. I wasn't the only one surprised; the CEO of one of its competitors said: “It’s surprising to see the news on RealtyShares given how strong the market currently is and has been over the past several years.”
Now, the company isn't actually going out of business…yet. They are, however, no longer seeking out new real estate deals nor new real estate investors. They do plan to continue servicing the existing investments/investors, so presumably, they'll still be around in some form or another half-decade or so. It wouldn't surprise me to see them be bought up or even make a comeback. They say, and I believe, that those with current investments there are going to be just fine. They made their usual payment on my last investment there just like clockwork this month (as all the other payments have been.) But if you're interested in pursuing real estate investing through a crowdfunding platform going forward, you're going to need to look elsewhere. Now, onto the post as originally written, with some recommendations at the end.]
Regular readers know that for the last few years I've had a bit more real estate in my portfolio than in previous years. This has taken the form of funds, individual syndications bought directly from the syndicator, and syndications bought through several of the crowdfunding companies such as RealtyShares.
Since these crowdfunded companies are relatively new, and the lifecycle of an equity syndicated investment can be long, it can be hard to answer the most common question I get about these from readers- “Should I invest in them?” I've kept readers up to date once or twice a year on how my investments are doing, but I recently had an event that I thought was worthy of a blog post. For the first time, I have had an equity investment go “full-cycle” or “round-trip.” I thought it would be instructive for readers to walk through it from beginning to end all at once and describe what happened.
How Crowdfunding Works
Before we get into the weeds, let's make sure we're all on the same page. A “syndicated” investment means it is bought by a bunch of different investors. The syndicator puts the deal together, gathers the investors, collects the money from investors, manages the investment, pays the distributions to investors, sells the investment, and distributes the principle to the investors, all in return for a handsome fee.
With a crowdfunding site, there is another layer of fees that go to the crowdfunding company/site. In exchange for paying that, the investors often get a lower minimum than they would get going directly to a syndicator and they get the benefit of the crowdfunding company's due diligence. While they are incentivized to gather as many assets/deals as they can, they are also incentivized to have an excellent track record of good investments.
The investment is generally placed into its own Limited Liability Company (LLC) so the investors are only on the hook for their entire investment, despite the frequent use of leverage in the investment. Some investments are “equity” investments, where the investors literally own the property and receive the profits it earns. Other investments, usually for shorter terms, are “debt” investments, where you loan money to a developer, usually a house flipper.
RealtyShares Retail at Canyon Center
About three years ago I saw an investment opportunity from RealtyShares land in my inbox. This happens most weekdays if you've signed up with multiple crowdfunding companies, so it isn't a particularly rare event. What was rare, however, was the property for sale was literally a mile away, a retail/strip mall we shop at all the time. It is the closest grocery store to our house. I thought it would be cool to be able to say I owned it every time I drove by, the financials looked reasonable to me, and I could afford the minimum investment. Plus, there would be no additional state income tax to pay!
The Original Listing
Here's what the original listing looked like:
So now that we know all about the property, let's learn about the deal.
So I will be a member of the RealtyShares LLC, which will invest in the Pacific Castle Canyon Center LLC. I get the first 6% that it makes, then 70% of whatever it makes above and beyond that. The whole thing should be over in less than 5 years. Here's what the finances looked like:
Basically, the property cost $8.5M. It was being purchased with 44% equity, 1/3 of which was coming from the sponsor itself. The other 54% of the purchase price was borrowed. Between 1/3 of the equity being the sponsor's money, and 30% of cash flow above and beyond the 6% preferred return going to the sponsor, they were incentivized pretty heavily to make sure this thing did well.
What Actually Happened
There were dozens (? hundreds) of more pages of what was supposed to happen with the investment, but those were the highlights. Now, let's talk about what actually happened.
On December 7th, 2015, RealtyShares cashed my $5,000 check. From that point on, this investment was basically just mailbox money to me. They sent updates from time to time, but mostly I just saw the distributions in my account. There weren't very many highlights, which is good since I like my investments boring. Let's go through them.The first distribution wasn't until February 24, 2016. It was a double distribution, so I got $50. $25*12 = $300, or 6% of my $5K investment. Each month after that, for nearly 2 years, I had $25 deposited into my checking account. Not quite like clockwork, but no missed payments.
Toward the end of 2017, they sold off a “pad” on the property, you know one of the little spaces in the corner of the parking lot where they build a Burger King. This outlying building was subsequently razed and rebuilt as a bank, but I no longer own it. My share of that was $1,081.08. Then my monthly payments dropped from $25 to $19.59.
Then, in September 2018, the property was sold. On October 29th, I got my capital back and the profit from the sale. The overall projected return was 18.2%. RealtyShares claims I made 18.3%. Using XIRR, I calculate 17.77%. That's actually pretty typical for an equity investment. I don't know how these guys calculate their returns, but they always seem a little higher than when I calculate them. I think it's because my money sat there for a month before the property and for a month after they sold it. Here's what my cash flows looked like:
That's a 0% return in 2015, a 6.17% return in 2016, a 5.12% return in 2017, and a 39.72% return in 2018, for an overall annualized return of 17.77%. Basically, I got all my money back plus $2,669.11. Not too shabby.
Let's compare it to another one of my investments, just for fun. Let's use the Vanguard REIT Index Fund.
According to Vanguard, this fund had the following returns:
- 2016: 8.50%
- 2017: 4.94%
- Through October 30, 2018: -1.24%
Although the cash flows obviously don't match up, my actual returns in the two investments were as follows:
Obviously, I feel like I was compensated for the risk and illiquidity I took on. How much additional risk and illiquidity are you willing to take on to have 14% higher returns? Quite a bit probably.
Should You Do This?
Yes, you should have bought Retail at Canyon Center when I did; you would have made 17.77%. Oh, that's not what you meant? You mean should you invest in crowdfunded real estate and with RealtyShares specifically?
Well, I guess that depends. But certainly, investments like this can make up a portion of a reasonable portfolio.
Here's where I think this type of investment shines:
Imagine a doc who wants to add real estate to the portfolio but wants higher returns than the Vanguard REIT index fund is offering and wouldn't mind having less correlation with the stock portion of her portfolio. She wants to have a little more control into exactly what she is invested in but definitely doesn't want any calls to repair toilets. She qualifies as an accredited investor based on income, but really doesn't have that large of a portfolio and won't be investing that much each year. For example, let's say the portfolio is $500K and she wants to put 10% of her current nest egg and 10% of the $50K she plans to invest each year going forward. This $50K + $5K a year doesn't work for a private real estate fund or going directly to a syndicator. Maybe, just maybe she can get into a single syndicated deal once every 5-10 years with that type of money. But what can she do? She can buy 5-10 of these crowdfunded real estate deals now, add a new one each year, and replace them as they mature.
Are there risks? Sure. To start with there is severely limited liquidity. Then there are all the usual real estate market risks, syndicator risk, and crowdfunding site risk. You're not going to make 18% without taking some risks. Are you going to pay a lot more in fees than you'll be paying Vanguard? Without a doubt.What about RealtyShares?
I have had 6 investments with RealtyShares, 5 debt and 1 equity. They've all paid as agreed and I got all of the principal back. No guarantee that will be the same experience you have of course, but certainly my record shouldn't disqualify RealtyShares from your consideration. [Of course, the fact that they are no longer taking new investments will!-ed]
They're one of the big players in this market and have been around since 2013. They've done 543 round trips and have another 340 currently. I'm sure they didn't all do as well as this one and that if there is a downturn, that many of those currently underway may not turn out as projected.
They had been partnering with us here at The White Coat Investor for years and made used to be on my short list of recommended crowdfunding companies. Apparently, they were paying us too in affiliate fees or something, but I'll be honest, not much of that $63M they burned through ever came to me.
What Now?
If you're still interested in buying syndicated real estate investments like this one through crowdfunded companies, I do have some other recommended companies, including these:
- CrowdStreet
- RealCrowd
- RealtyMogul
- Equity Multiple
- FundRise
- Roofstock
- PeerStreet
- CityVest (more info on Monday)
Whether you should pay any attention to my recommendations or not given the fact that RealtyShares was on that list until the day they quit taking new investments is an entirely different question. Obviously, this is a good example of why diversification matters. Diversification protects you from what you don't know and I was always careful to spread my bets among the companies in the industry. Certainly, it is not unreasonable to skip the entire industry and perhaps even the entire asset class. There are no called strikes in investing. But here are some alternatives:
- Invest through another crowdfunding company.
- Go directly to the syndicators.
- Use a private real estate fund.
- Buy your own real estate properties or hard money loans directly.
- Use the Vanguard REIT index fund.
- Skip real estate altogether.
What do you think? Were you in on this investment? Were you happy with it? Have you invested in real estate through RealtyShares? How was your experience? Does this new development sound the death knell for crowdfunding companies? Why or why not? Comment below!
I was super bummed to hear about Realty Shares as I will finish paying off my loans in March of 2019. At that point I’ll have extra cash flow each month to consider putting towards other investments and I want a way to invest in real estate in some way, shape, or form.
I am not a huge fan of investing in real estate directly and being a land lord. So, crowdfunding real estate seemed like a great alternative. I’ll just wait the next six months out and see how this industry continues to shake out. Gives me time to do some homework.
TPP
There are many companies to invest in realty….Most, but not all require a starting purchase price around 50K. However, there are some that start as low as 5K increments.
Crowdfunding is just one of many ways to invest in realty. Continue learning and paying off your loans and whenever you desire to invest elsewhere, you will have plenty of opportunity to do so.
Good luck!
The Realty Shares news came as a complete shock to me when I received the email saying that they would not longer be taking on new money. Like you I had several round trips with them (I had 3 Debt deals). I got my capital return (always a good thing) and the promised interest and was happy.
I ended up switching to private syncidation because I wanted a longer hold period (I did not want to keep looking for new things to deploy my capital when it was being returned) and with larger properties.
I do believe this is a great asset class to invest in if you are so inclined but you can still do well if you stick with just stocks and bonds. Real estate has an appeal to me because the government encourages buying real estate via its tax incentives (depreciation for example on my current syndicated deals has essentially made my mailbox money I am currently getting tax free (of course you pay the piper later down the road but it makes good financial sense to pay taxes later (and if you die the step up in cost basis actually makes the whole thing tax free to your heirs).
I haven’t done a round trip with a syndicated deal yet, their hold times can be 7+ yrs.
I am glad that former investors in RS apparently will be protected despite the news of RS going out of business. And I agree that diversification is important as even big name companies are not immune. I recently have expanded my syndication to other companies for this very reason.
I would state that “Former investors THROUGH RS apparently will be protected.” Those who invested IN RealtyShares aren’t going to do well at all.
Yes, I was coincidentally in the same Realty Shares SLC commercial property investment with you, also for $5000, so I had the exact same return as you. In all, I invested in 6 debt and 2 equity deals with Realty Shares. One equity deal (multifamily housing in Philadelphia) is still ongoing. Of the six debt deals, one ended up as a default and one year after it was scheduled to return capital (and following 12 months of no payments), I received $1700 of my original $3000 investment returned to me.
I have had many more investments with Peer Street (all debt, mostly residential), but a recent experience is giving me pause. I invested $1000 in a fix-and-flip house in West Palm Beach, and the borrower defaulted. The house went through the foreclosure process, was possessed by Peer Street, and is now ready for sale. In the sale process, the house was reappraised and 18 months after the deal was listed, the appraised value went from $750,000 to $550,000.
WTH? I doubt that the housing market in WP has dropped by 30% in 18 months, so now I am asking myself if the original appraisal value is legitimate. And if this appraisal was questionable, what about the others?
Is the $1300 loss final or could more money be coming in the future? The appraisal issue is also concerning.
Yes, the $1300 loss is final. The property was sold for a considerable loss.
Yes, I had been counting on the appraisals being accurate and honest, but if they are not, being as I am no expert in appraising real estate in my own market, let alone markets all over the country, then all bets are off.
I guess I do not understand why these seem to be popping up all of a sudden. Are the banks too skittish now to offer loans so more companies need to look for cash this way? The banks will loan in the lower risk setting but these crowdfunding companies raise the money when the risk is too high for the banks and they offer higher returns because of it?
It’s mostly because it is not very convenient or quickly to go through a bank. Developers/flippers have been using hard money loans for a long time, it’s just the crowdfunding sites that are new since 2012.
On your list of recommended companies you don’t include Origin investments. Yet, one of your previous pieces mentioned you have invested in them. Is this because they only accept accredited investors or do you not recommend them?
They’re not a crowdfunding company. They provide funds. You’ll hear more about funds on this site as time goes on as my investments are moving in that direction. I have a post Monday about an interesting hybrid between crowdfunding and funds on Monday.
Can anyone recommend one to join? I’m not sure how to pick between the different sites. I guess I would prefer a larger company, but as seen above that isn’t bulletproof.
Has anyone else out their lost their principal on a Peer Street investment? I thought I’d read somewhere that this has never happened–apparently this was incorrect, although it did seem a bit too good to be true.
I’ve invested in 7 different deals on the platform over the last 6 months or so. 1 is in the “30 days late” category, but the rest have paid on time thus far.
I had someone send me a list of their Peer Street investments earlier today. They haven’t lost any principal, but they have 3 or 4 loans that are 30-60 days late.
I have invested in around 23 deals with peer street, and 3 of them are undergoing foreclosure process. Technically I haven’t lost any money yet, but I am concerned (ROTH IRA). Anyway, I have paused automatic reinvestment and plan to transfer funds to Vangaurd.
I have also invested with other companies, including fund rise, and am shocked to hear about realty share.
Wondering how the taxes worked out. Simple or complex.
It’s just a K-1. No big deal. You just type it in to Turbotax or hand it to your preparer.
When it’s tax time do you have to file state income taxes in each state that you have an investment in?
Depends on the investment. Equity, usually yes. Debt, usually no. One reason to keep your equity investments in your state, in tax-free states, and in states that you’re already filing returns for. How silly would it be to have a bunch of $2K investments that pay you $100 a year and cost you $50 a year to file taxes on.
Interesting. Most people have sufficient real estate exposure owning a house!
I think a strong argument for investing in a REIT, as you suggested at the end of the post (Vanguard or other index or individual REIT’s) can be made here for a few reasons:
1. Professional management
2. Liquidity
3. Transparency
4. Diversification (usually in many, many properties)
5. They are required by law to pay out 90% of their taxable income as dividends.
I think this is a very attractive option for people seeking real estate investments with good returns, not wanting to actually deal with the property directly/source the deals and having liquidity and being able to easily buy/sell the investment.
Are any of these properties locateded in Detroit where high foreclosures were linked to the fact homeowners were being charged unconstitutionally high property tax bills based on over-inflated property assessments? Thousands of people lost their homes, lives destroyed. What was the ultimate goal? Gentrification? A way to make lots of money, by pooling these homes, tearing them down for new homes? Building upscale neighborhoods? Betcha!
No, this was a retail property in Utah being discussed in this post.
As companies that invest in real estate are owned by companies becoming part of the major indexes.
My most favorite equity investment is a total world index fund. I moved all of my equity allocation to one a few months before the Corona pandemic to diversify and simplify my holdings.
I moved away from dividend investing as it simply made more sense. Better diversification and tax treatment.
I also moved away from direct real estate investment for the diversification and low expenses associated with index funds.