Sometimes it is fun to calculate a financial ratio to determine how well you're doing compared to your goals or even to other people. One ratio that I think most physicians ought to be very aware of is their debt to income ratio (DTI). It sometimes seems that the only time anyone ever really talks about debt to income ratios is when you're trying to take on new debt, like a mortgage. Mortgage guidelines change frequently, especially after major economic and real estate meltdowns partially brought on by lax lending standards. However, a typical mortgage lender likes to see a DTI of 33/38 or so. That means that your housing expenses, including principal, interest, taxes, insurance, and HOA fees should consume a maximum of 33% of your income. If you also include other debt (like student loans, auto loans, or credit cards), then the maximum should be 38% of your income.
Let's Call Your Debt to Income Ratio what it Really is: Your Debt Slave Ratio
Longtime readers know that I generally recommend that housing expenses, including utilities, should not consume more than 20% of your gross income and that I really think you should take on consumer debt pretty much…never. However, I think it would be instructive for a physician to really consider his overall debt to income ratio, including mortgages, buy-ins, student loans, auto loans, and consumer debt. I think it would be even more interesting to adjust it first for taxes. Instead of calling it the rather benign debt to income ratio, let's call it the debt slave ratio. That's really what debt is since the borrower is slave to the lender. A debt is simply spending life energy (time or money, since they're fairly interchangeable in most situations) before you've acquired it.
Calculating Your Debt Slave Ratio
How much of your life energy is going to servicing your debt? What percentage of the time are you actually working for yourself, rather than someone else? You don't want to be someone else's best investment.
Consider an emergency doctor who works 16 shifts a month. Let's say he makes $1500 a shift, or $24,000 per month. At this income level, it wouldn't be unusual to pay 25% of that income toward payroll, federal income, and state income taxes. So his first four shifts pay taxes.
Next, he has $300K in student loans on a 10-year plan. The loans are at an average rate of 7.5%, so that works out to a monthly payment in the neighborhood of $3750. That's another 2.5 shifts a month.
Now, he lives in a place with a high cost of living, and although he limited himself to a modest 2000 foot 3 bedroom house, he ended up taking out a 4.5% $900,000 30 year physician mortgage on this property. That's another $4500 a month, or 3 more shifts.
He and his spouse drive two nice cars, with $400 monthly payments on each of them. That's another 1/2 shift.
They actually carry a little credit card debt, left over from residency, but which they haven't yet paid off. The minimum payments on this $40,000 debt are $200 a month, but they want to get rid of them eventually and calculated that they need to pay $600 a month just to cover the interest. So they pay $1500 a month, another shift.
He now gets to work the last 5 shifts a month for himself, including any retirement and college savings. But since his income is relatively high, he finds that to be doable and his family settles into that lifestyle. Now, however, he decides he is sick of working nights, and really doesn't like working 16 shifts a month. He'd like to cut back to fewer shifts, work fewer nights, or take on a job in a less busy department that doesn't pay as well. But he can't. He is a slave to the money he has already spent on education, his home, his cars, and his lifestyle. Not only must he keep his job, but he has to keep running at it as fast as he can. His debt slave ratio (not counting taxes ) is 7/12, or 58%. Counting taxes (using his net income), it is 11/16, or 69%. That seems pretty terrible to me. Truly he is a slave to his debt.
My Debt Slave Ratio
I thought I'd calculate my own debt service ratio. For the most part, I try to practice what I preach. Not only is my mortgage less than 2X my gross income (my general recommendation) but now that my income has grown and the mortgage has been paid down a little, it is less than 1X my gross income. I lived like a resident for 4 years after residency (partially voluntarily and partially due to the fact that the military only wanted to pay me 1/4-1/3 what a private emergency doctor could make) and so have no student loans. There are no payments on the vehicles we bought used and we don't carry credit card balances. We do have a rental property, but its expenses are almost covered by the rent, and what is not is trivial compared to my overall income. So essentially, my only debt is my mortgage, a 15-year loan fixed at 2.75%. It requires about 9% of my income to service that debt. Maybe 10% if you add in property taxes and insurance. Not too bad, and certainly much less than the 69% used in the example. But you know what, if I didn't have that debt at all I could work two fewer days a month, or quit working nights altogether, and sometimes, after a rough shift, that looks pretty appealing. [2017 Editor's Update: We paid off our mortgage and became debt-free in July this year! Still no car debt. Still no credit card balance. Did the “we're debt-free” yell. I don't feel too much different but it mostly feels great to accomplish a goal.]
What's A Good Ratio for a Doctor?
I'm not sure there is a good ratio. Zero is the ideal for the anti-debt, Dave Ramsey types, although even Dave is always quick to point out you should only throw extra money at your mortgage AFTER you're putting 15% of your gross income toward retirement. Certainly, 69% is not a good ratio. 20-30% is probably okay for a young attending who still has student loans to pay off, but I would feel uncomfortable with a ratio that high. I get uncomfortable just looking at my mortgage statement each month and seeing how many days of my life, after-tax, I've already spent on this stack of twigs I'm living in. (It's about 220, for those who care, or a little over 3000 patients.)

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I've noticed that far too many doctors out there are entirely too comfortable with debt. I'm not sure why that is. Perhaps it is the fact that many doctors who followed a traditional route into medical school have never had a real job and lived for years just signing promissory notes every semester, and then signing IBR statements each year in residency. It is almost as if they don't “feel” the weight of their student loan burden. It seems so light and fluffy to them that as soon as they get out of residency (and often even before they get their first attending paycheck), they stack a big fat mortgage and a car payment or two right on top of it. Before you know it, they've got a debt slave ratio of 40%, 50%, or even 75%, just like the rest of America. They have squandered their ticket (the high income of a physician) out of the rat race.
Prevention is the Best Solution
The solution to having a low debt slave ratio is, like dieting, simple, but not easy. The best solution is prevention. There are lots of ways to prevent the addition of debt on to your life.
- Apply broadly to medical schools (so you get into more than one) and matriculate to the least expensive (including cost of living of the city.)
- Minimize living expenses during school, remembering that everything you buy will really be twice as expensive by the time you pay it back.
- Learn to live beneath your means as a resident. You've already dug yourself a big enough hole. You don't have much of a shovel to fill it back in, but you could at least stop digging.
- Upon residency graduation, live your net worth, rather than your income.
- Don't buy cars on credit.
- Don't use credit cards for credit.
Perhaps, like many, it's too late. You have a terrible debt slave ratio. Realize that you're not alone in this situation. I'm now routinely getting emails from doctors who owe $400-500K in student loan debt alone. I recently heard from a two physician couple who owes $950,000 in student loans. You may have a car loan, a few leftover credit cards, and a fat new mortgage. What can you do about it?
- Consider reversing some of the debt. Sometimes, it is easier to downsize your lifestyle than to pay off the one you've mistakenly purchased thinking that was what you really wanted. Have a $60K Audi costing you $800 a month? Selling it would certainly reduce your ratio. Same with a house. Rather than trying to pay off that $1 Million mortgage maybe you should sell now while house prices are up and buy a $500K house. Get rid of that sailboat you bought on a whim and don't have time to use anyway and you may free up all kinds of cash flow.
- Boost income, cut lifestyle and direct the difference to the debt. Negotiate hard for your salary, moonlight or pick up a few shifts on the side, eat out a little less, and direct that money to credit cards and student loans until you can get them down to a reasonable level.
- Remember that debt is debt. Many people like to differentiate “good debt” (like student loans and mortgages) from “bad debt” like boat loans and credit cards. But you know what? It all costs cash (your life energy) every month. Even good debt must be serviced.
- Refinance your student loans. This is a no-brainer unless you are going for PSLF. There are so many options for refinancing loans that can save you thousands in interest every year.
- Remember that “leverage” is overrated. Lots of people like to point out that debt at 1-3% is really like free money, at least after inflation. The math is right. If you borrow at 2% and earn at 6%, you're going to come out ahead (although not necessarily on a risk-adjusted basis). But have you considered just how far ahead? Let's say you are lucky and have $100K in student loans at 3% you don't want to pay back too fast since it's “free money”. You manage to make 6% on that money over the long run, 5% after taxes, over 10 years or so. How much money did you make by doing that? Perhaps $10K total. Not exactly life-changing money. But would your life change in a meaningful way if you didn't have to send $3K each month to the lender? It just might.
The biggest difference I see between physicians who are financially successful and those who are not is their attitude toward debt. Look at debt as a cancer that needs to be wiped out rather than a rheumatologic disease that needs to be managed and you'll lead a healthier financial life.
What do you think? How high of a debt slave ratio is too high for a doctor? What did you do to keep your ratio manageable? Comment below!

Same here — the most financially successful physicians I knew when I was starting out also treated debt like a cancer. As one of them told me when I was first starting out in private practice, “pay your house off as fast as you possibly can — there is no such thing as good debt.” Necessary debt, maybe. Calculated decision debt, maybe. But not good debt.
I’m starting off as an attending now at 26%. In 5 years I plan to have my student loans and car paid off which will bring me down to about 8%. Then I can have a little more fun with my money and start paying down my mortgage much more quickly. My mortgage total is a little under 1x my attending salary and my student loans are about 1.2x my attending salary. Potential moonlighting will only make that happen even earlier.
Student loan debt is certainly “cancerous” since it cannot be deducted. Paying these outrageous rates for money is not building wealth. Mortgage debt is another matter. An excellent inflation hedge… Asset protection… Extremely low rates..all wrapped up in one package.
I would much rather take the payoff money and invest in a taxable account, then pay off the mortgage at the time of my choosing at Cap Gains rates. Banks will come to hate these long term, ultra-low rate mortgages when inflation is running 10% twenty years from now. If I die before the Mortgage is over, my Life insurance (also very low premiums) will pay it off.
My only debt is a loan on my truck at 1.7% so I’m kind of in that “I would rather invest than pay it off” mode. I keep the rest low by living in apartments instead of buying a fancy house. One day I will get a house, but as I’m in the military with the lower salary and move quite frequently I can typically get a nicer apartment for less money than a mortgage on a house which will require more time and upkeep. No transaction costs like a house and not trying to worry about being an out of state landlord. Hopefully by the time I’m out of the military I will have enough cash saved for my house as well so I may not even need a mortgage then.
I agree completely that being at zero debt level would be ideal, as would having the option to comfortably retire at age 45 if I want. However, there is something to be said for living in the present because as any doctor knows tomorrow is promised to no one. Saving a huge amount for a retirement that may never occur and living like a complete pauper just to be free of debt that would disappear on my death is where that grey line creeps in. The “perfect” ratio is probably different for everyone depending on a whole host of factors. Why don’t you consider insurance costs in this ratio? Between Long Term Disability, Term Life, and Health insurances this often accounts for about 1 grand a month or more for many people which in my mind is still part of the “slave” ratio. Thanks,
While life and disability insurance goes away with financial independence, health insurance doesn’t, but I see what you’re saying.
Great points in the post. I think its important to consider the longer term (30 year) benefit of compounding with comparing paying off a student debit and mortgage debit vs investing. This is particularly true when the investments are a Roth 401k or back door Roth. I wouldn’t recommend paying off debit with a rate of 3% if qualified investment opportunities had not been completely satisfied first.
You talk so much sense. I really credit this website for redirecting my finances and making us a “house of order”. Thank you so much, WCI. I love what you say throughout but especially cure #4 since this is what first led me to your site.
For a family living in a yurt with no mortgage, not sure how to calculate the slave ratio other than student loan debt. (?)
Interesting article.
This is in a way a no brainer that less the debt, the better. Although, personally speaking, the debt should be divided into two category: (a) One that has any potential of generating income (bussiness/venture capital) and (B) one that does not (car/student loan).
No doubt that with high debt in category B, there is no point in looking at A. Although, if there is an option to generate passive income in future, taking reasonable debt on category A side wouldnt be too bad!
i have a high debt to income ratio but i don’t have a problem with it. i live in california and most of my debt is from mortgages. i bought a condo during fellowship in 2010 for about $100k with 20% down payment at 3.5%. the property is now worth about $160k. it is now a rental property that is cash flow positive. i bought my 2nd property soon after i started working in 2012 for $575k with 20% down at 2.875% on a 10/1 arm. it is now worth about $700k. this home is also being rented and is cash flow neutral. i’m currently purchasing my 3rd property for $1.2M with 20% down, 10/1 arm at 3.5%. it’s a lot of debt but at the same time i’m not worried because i am confident i can sell the other properties for profit very easily. in addition, they have been great investments and though there is risk involved with real estate, as they say you need to spend money to make money. am i doing something wrong??
That is what I call “calculated decision” debt, and it is as close to “good debt” as you can get — you don’t know whether it will be “good debt” until after you find out how the business venture pans out. I borrowed to buy into a surgery center back in the day — no brainer, with high passive income production and significant appreciation in value. I borrowed to buy income-generating real estate that has dramatically increased in value — no brainer there, too.
The thing is, if someone doesn’t take a ruthless approach to managing the usual debt loads (consumer, student loan, mortgage), when such opportunities present themselves, no-one is going to loan you the money you need for those kinds of ventures.
As long as you are tolerant of risks and have proper insurance and catastrophe contingencies, doesn’t seem like a bad gig. If you’re doing all of that en lieu of retirement investments, then there might be a problem in the future.
If you have some fun doing all of it, then all the better.
I am envious.
You are paying a lot in interest charges annually at those loan levels. Why not pay off the lower valued properties completely and use the cash flow they generate to build up bigger down payments before proceeding?
that’s one option and probably the option that white coat investor would recommend but i think it’s way too conservative for my taste. i’m not saying my way is the only or best way but it has worked really well for me so far.
the main reason i don’t pay off the other mortgages is because i would lose my cash reserve, it would take much longer to build up my down payment from the cash flow and i wouldn’t have been able to buy my current $1.2M property.
the interest payments haven’t been that bad because of the tax benefits that offset some of it.
also there is a huge benefit from leveraging your money in a rebounding housing market like we currently have and i’m not sure why white coat investor calls leveraging “overrated”. with a 20% downpayment for every $1000 increase in the housing price i gain $5000 (if i’m doing the math correctly…). of course it also goes in the opposite direction in a down market but we’re coming off a huge housing bubble and no risk no reward right?
I think that last line is very dangerous. What happens to your situation if housing prices lose 20-30%. Does the bank pull the loan and you get stuck holding the bag? Do the renters demand less housing cost since homes are cheaper? Sounds like you are setting yourself up to work a lot of overtime if the market tanks at all.
In the very unlikely event that we enter another recession despite the fact that all economic data points to a recovery and houses drop 20-30%, I would still be up about 20% on my first property and I would be flat on my 2nd property. I would have no problem selling these properties for a small profit.
I would be down on my current property but it’s my primary home so I can wait out a recovery. In addition I think the chances are much higher that housing goes up 20-30% in the next 5 yrs than going down.
No risk, no reward may ignore benefit of less risk with same reward. Why not sell 575k property that is only cash flow neutral, and use that great potential profit to payoff 100K property that is cash flow positive and/or put more down on the 1.2M property? Since you brought up concern of losing your cash reserve maybe on some level you are sensing risk that you are not seeing on paper. Either way beefing up cash reserve with all the new debt on 1.2m property may be needed. Good luck whatever you decide. May the market be with you…
basically i think you’re advocating deleveraging and increasing cash flow. definitely not a bad idea, and a safe, conservative approach. on the flip side by leveraging my money in real estate i get a much higher ROI as property value goes up as it has.
just as an analogy, if we were stocks i’d say you would be a stock like coke – slow growth, good dividend, safe; while i’d be more like tesla – high growth, no dividend, riskier. currently my strategy is working very well but who wins out in the long term only time will tell…
Risk is fine. But, having a good cash cushion and diversification to buffer you from life’s downturns really helps your staying power. I advocate deleveraging not for cash flow but for flexibility. It also lets you see the market downturns as opportunities. With your market doing so well just be wise with new investing in it. You didn’t mention the rest of your portfolio so many this much risk in real estate is a nonissue. Each person needs to find right balance of Coke and Tesla. You sound young so not a bad time to take more risk and try for a home run. Just don’t be afraid to book profits occasionally.
I agree diversification is key and cash is king. The recent housing crash was such a unique opportunity I had to take full advantage of it but now that we’re in the latter innings of the rebound it’s time to raise cash and look for the next opportunity.
Yes, leverage works both ways.
do you believe your advice of treating debt like cancer and living frugally is the best way to be financially successful or is it just one conservative approach?
Hard to say what “the best way” is. Certainly some uses of debt are more reasonable than others. It’s like real estate. If you put down 20-40%, you’re probably cash flow positive but still using lots of leverage. If you put 80% down, you lose a lot of the benefit of that leverage, but putting 0% down introduces all kinds of risks, as well as (most likely) negative cash flow.
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One problem I have with the ratio is that with progressive income tax rates, as you make more money your slave ratio could increase even though you are saving more. e.g. if you income is 200k vs. 500k your tax rate is significantly higher at 500k
That’s why he uses gross income (pre-tax).
Yes, if you use net income and increase debt as you increase income, that could be an issue.
Can you please provide the actual numbers (i.e. (a+b+c)/(x+y)) used in your example that allows you to calculate the debt slave ratios of 58% and 69%?
I don’t think I saved the work. I could recreate it I suppose. I’ll try to include it in future posts with calculations.
Net: Don’t buy anything you can’t pay cash for…except your home.
My ratio is zero. Finally.
p.s. I’m 49, and debt went to zero at age 46.
I only have one small problem with this post. You seem to imply that there is a direct relationship between being a slave to debt and working to earn money to pay off that debt. The example you use is the number of shifts an ER doc has to work to pay off a luxurious and indebted lifestyle. But for the majority of docs who don’t do shift work, it’s harder to say there is such a direct relationship. For example, if I am going to be a viable and conventionally successful physician in practice as a _____, that is going to require a certain fixed amount of work to be feasible and usually result in a predictable standard salary. It’s possible to increase or decrease work to increase or decrease income, but neither is as easy or simple as your example. Therefore, if I earn an average salary for being a viable practitioner, and I am smart with my money and max my savings like you say, what’s the big deal with taking a 3.5% auto loan to buy a nice car if I can afford the payment? Its not as if I could really say, “I’m happy driving a cheap car, so I’ll only do 3 days of clinic a week”, because that’s not realistic because in many specialties there would be an enormous financial consequence to not being a full time provider. Many hospitals are so desperate for people to be on the ER schedule they don’t respond well to a physician saying “I’m going to take 3 fewer days of call a month because I don’t need the money”. So while a “debt is bad” attitude is generally good, I have a hard time demonizing normal responsible debt, and and even harder time trying to say that there is any relationship between my auto loan and how much I work. (This is a bit of a devil’s advocate post, I know.)
I agree that for many physicians scaling back is not much of an option due to the specialty or employer requirements. Although more and more docs seem to be moving toward a shift work type model. If you run your own practice, you are also in control of your office hours and patient flow rate.
Using my income only, the DTI for my after taxes to my mortgage payment is 35%. We have several different factors on our house since the mortgage and expenses associated are covered by rental income. If you include our total household income and the rental income it would be closer to the 21% a number you mentioned as a good %.
Just came across your blog through Rockstar Finance. Although I do not wear a white coat for my day job, I think the rules of finance translates (to some degree) into other careers similarly.
Congrats on managing to keep your debt to less than 10% of your salary! With 90% of your income to save and invest, I can only imagine how fast your nest egg is growing. The sacrifice you made for 4 years following your residency appears to be the biggest factor in your success.
Wishing you continued success! AFFJ
Thanks for the kind words. As you know, personal finance is 80% the same for everyone and investing is 95% the same for everyone. But that 5-20% is pretty useful for those who can’t find that info anywhere else!