It's that giving time of year! We spend a little more time thinking about charity this time of year. Part of that is due to the holidays, part of it is due to the tax year coming to a close since many donations are tax-deductible, and part of it is simply due to the natural reflection on how we've done for the year. In today's post, I'm going to share a few thoughts I've had about giving this month.
Charitable Giving is Work
First of all, I think it is important to note that effective giving is work. Just like earning, saving, investing, paying taxes, and even spending, it takes work to do it well. For many people, it's all about the efficiency of the charity. They want to see as high a percentage as possible of their donation going directly to helping others. There are many “charity rating” online resources that can help you in this endeavor.
For others, it's about the effectiveness of the charity. How much good can that charity do with a few bucks? It turns out that high-yield interventions in very poor places in this world do more good than a lot of what can be done locally.
Still, others prefer to act locally, by giving to local food banks, homeless shelters, free clinics, soup kitchens, and the like. Deciding which of these matters most to you, and deciding on the individual charities you are going to give to is a lot of work. You will also need to decide whether to give a few large gifts or many small ones. You can just do what is convenient, i.e. give to those who ask you to give, but I suspect you will enjoy the process more if you spend some time and go through the process in a more deliberate manner.
Get Kids Involved
If giving is an important part of your life, chances are charity is a habit you want to pass along to your children. Get them involved in the process. In December, we meet as a family and choose the charities we will donate to each year. Although we have met in advance as a couple and decided HOW MUCH we're going to give, we go into this meeting open-minded and let the kids have just as much say in who gets the money as we do. More details on this meeting in another post in a few months.
Giving Doesn't Just Mean Charity
We have tried to view giving in a wider scope than just giving to charity. We are guided in this by some of our religious views. Our religion teaches that:
…ye shall obtain riches, if ye seek them; and ye shall seek them for the intent to do good—to clothe the naked, to feed the hungry, and to liberate the captive, and administer relief to the sick and afflicted.
But it also teaches us that:
…if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith and is worse than infidel.
There are a couple of lessons there. First, moderation in all things. You don't need to give to the point where you are impoverished and can't feed your kids. But second, that you can give both to charity and to “your own,” however you define that. We have started 529 accounts for all 31 of our nieces and nephews—at least those who have provided us with their children's SSNs. Some of their parents have their own 529s and some don't. But this year we decided to make larger donations than usual into each of these accounts. We see this as a way to take care of our own.
Another way we give that really isn't charity is The White Coat Investor Scholarship. Now obviously we get some marketing value out of that (and you can be assured we really emphasize that to the IRS) but there is no way we're getting as much marketing value as we're spending on it. It's not a great business decision. But it is a great way for us to pay it forward.
Time or Money
Time is money and money is time, at least to a certain extent. They're not completely fungible, obviously. I think Warren Buffett said something to the effect of being willing to give up all his money to be young again. But there are times in life when it is easier or better for you to donate your time and other times when it is easier or better to donate your money. Obviously, you can do both in whatever combination works for you.
It's Not a Tax Play
I occasionally run into someone who doesn't understand how deductions work. Sometimes they're criticizing givers as just trying to get out of paying taxes. But other times it is someone who is asking “How can I lower my taxes?” When the suggestion is given to give some money to charity they realize how deductions work. If you give $100 to charity, and your marginal tax rate is 35%, at most you get $35 off your taxes. Paying $100 for $35 worth of a tax break isn't a particularly good financial move unless you were going to give the money anyway. Some people can't even use the deduction since they take the standard deduction. Just recognize that you're not going to have more money AFTER you donate to charity.
Taxes Aren't Charity
While we're on the subject of taxes, it's probably worthwhile to point out something that I see as obvious but which many are confused about. Paying taxes is not charity. The reason why is because taxes aren't voluntary. You see, you either pay them or you go to prison with Wesley Snipes. While I'm proud of what my tax dollars do, and I pay every dollar I owe, I'm not going to leave a tip.
Now I'm no Libertarian. I'm not trying to shrink the government to the size where it can be drowned in a bathtub. But I'm of the firm belief that there are some things that government does best, some things that charity does best, and some things that business does best. Mixing those up often leads to inefficient solutions. Personally, if you don't want to give to charity, that's fine. It's your money. The great part about charity is it is voluntary. But don't justify it by saying you pay lots of money in taxes. Charity is about making a choice, and there is no choice when it comes to taxes.
Charity at Death Isn't Really Charity
While I'm ranting, let me just point out that leaving your money to charity when you die is a good thing, but in many ways, you're really leaving your heirs' money to charity. It doesn't hurt you a bit to give it away at that point. “But I might need it,” you say. That's exactly the point. Charity is giving away something you might need. For similar reasons, I recommend you start a giving program long before you are financially independent, much less dead. Using a Donor Advised Fund is kind of similar, since you get the tax deduction but the charity doesn't actually get the money. The Physician on FIRE and I ran a Pro/Con post debating this very point.
It's Not Just for the Charity
I think when I give to charity that it does me at least as much good as the charity. It helps me to avoid being miserly. It helps me avoid a visit from the ghosts of Christmas past, present, and future. It helps me to fight off that subconscious voice saying:
You don't have enough
You need more
What if…
You'll never have enough
I think giving a significant amount of money away sends messages to those subconscious voices, and those messages are:
If I can give this much I must be well off
I have enough and to spare.
Giving makes me less selfish and less greedy. It makes me worry about money less. It makes me feel richer. It helps me stay connected to those less fortunate than myself. It provides perspective. Instead of worrying about whether a 3.7% SWR or a 3.5% SWR is best, I focus on those who are hungry, ill, and inadequately clothed. Want to know if you have “enough?” Give some money away. You'll be amazed what that does to keep your “enough” number from skyrocketing.
In addition, giving money away makes sure you're not working more than you actually want to. Let me explain. When you're giving away a big chunk of money, you know that a big chunk of the work you do is not actually for you. So if you don't really want to do it, you'll stop and go do something you want to do. It combines with your self-interest to muzzle your workaholism.
It's an American Tradition?
Philanthropy and volunteerism are somewhat unique to Americans, and one of the things I love about this country. We may be greedy capitalists, but the most capitalistic among us have set some pretty impressive examples of philanthropy.
Andrew Carnegie isn't remembered so much for his steel empire as for the >2,000 libraries he founded. He gave away over 90% of his wealth before he died. He said, “The man who dies rich dies disgraced.” Will Bill Gates be remembered more for Microsoft or for the Gates Foundation and the work it does? Warren Buffett, who has already given away $27 Billion of his $70 Billion said, “If you're in the luckiest 1% of humanity, you owe it to the rest of humanity to think about the other 99%.” Guess what? Every reader of this forum is in the luckiest 1% of humanity. Even the relatively young Mark Zuckerberg has committed to give away 99% of his Facebook shares during his lifetime. Given these examples, it's kind of pathetic that the US isn't even in the top ten of countries by percentage of people who have given to charity in the last month!
Give!
I don't care what the cause is or who you give to. Charity. Your family. A political party. Whatever. I don't care how much you give. But give some money away this year to a cause or person you care about. It will do you good. Done well, it will do them good. Try to adopt a “steward” mentality. Imagine this isn't your money. You're just managing it for a few decades on behalf of the world. Manage it well and perhaps you'll be given more to manage. 2017 was the first year we gave away more money than we spent. Don't worry, we still spent plenty, saved plenty, and the IRS knows we paid plenty of taxes (in fact the figure in the chart on the right is just an estimate and I suspect it's a little low). So far, we've been able to give away more than we spent every year since.
What do you think? What role does giving play in your life? Do you give to charity now? Do you plan to when you die? What else do you give to? Comment below!
Merry Christmas! And thanks for all you do. I know, it is a business too, but the information and discussion on WCI is a great service. A high income does not bring with it financial understanding.
Merry Christmas, WCI!
I think giving is crucial. It feeds the hungry and it feeds our souls. I like to think of the interest you make from giving not being a financial interest, but a human interest. Lke the Grinch when his heart changes, it begins to grow. So, too, can our hearts grow with giving towards others. While most of my giving is towards my church, I do save 10% of my substantial quarterly bonuses specifically to give away to others in need.
I really like your point about planning as well. Giving should be intentional.
Since you pay your kids through WCI are they expected to tithe or give some of their money to charity? Does the daddy match exist on that money?
That’s a good question. They do pay tithing, but my general philosophy on tithing and retirement accounts is that you tithe when you take the money out, not when you put it in. Too much of a recordkeeping hassle to do it any other way. So the kids do the same thing. Since everything they make goes into a retirement account, none of it is tithed.
That seems like a reasonable approach. Haven’t had to cross this bridge (yet), but this post made me think about it.
And I agree on the thought regarding tithing and retirement accounts, makes more sense to tithe the first fruits when you actually pick them instead of when you’ve only planted the tree.
You just keep impressing me with your posts. Very thoughtful and actionable. I appreciated your opening up your money outflows via your family budget pie chart. Interesting for comparison purposes. For those that are tentative to open up and give a significant amount I would like to say two things. First, you can’t out give God. Try it for yourself and see. Second, you only get to really keep that which you give away. Merry Christmas!
Very impressive, WCI. Giving 13% per year, funding dozens of 529 funds for nieces and nephews, and getting the kids involved, too. That’s awesome.
We got our kids involved more than ever this year. They each go through their toyboxes and choose toys to donate. They each got to pick a recipient for the dollars in their “Give” jar that’s part of their allowance. They served dinner and played piano to entertain guests at the soup kitchen, and just the other day braved the cold with me to ring the bell, collecting hundreds for the Salvation Army. One generous guy dropped a $100 bill in the bucket.
Thank you for the reminder on our DAF pro / com piece. I’ve still got to finish my half and prepare for publication. I’ve been too busy discussing it on your forum! https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/forums/topic/never-a-better-time-to-open-your-donor-advised-fund/
Cheery Christmas!
-PoF
How do you sign-up to ring the bell?
Every Christmas I think about dragging the kids down to the soup kitchen and then I feel guilty for only thinking about it during the Christmas season and don’t do it. Better to do it at Christmas than not at all, but I keep meaning to take them down there at some other time in the year.
My wife and I do the same with toys. We ask each of them to donate toys and we also pick out some toys expressly for other kids that our kids won’t get to keep. It’s important that they understand giving from a young age.
Merry Xmas.i dropped 40k into a Donor advised fund yesterday. I figured it was a good way to get a tax deduction in this year before the overhaul next year while also setting myself up for donations for the next few years. It’s good to share the wealth once in awhile.
Nicely done.
Money has a way of closing our fist and hardening our heart. When we open the fist and give to someone else, it softens our hearts. I’ve noticed that the more money people make, the less they want to give. As you make more, remember to give more all along the climb. Make it a habit.
WCI, now that you give more than you spend, you can shoot for giving more than you are taxed.
Merry Christmas everyone,
Dr Cory S. Fawcett
Prescription for Financial Success
Merry Christmas! I hope you and your family are enjoying the season!
It is always good to have a nice reminder of what is important during the Christmas season. I really like that you have multiple 529’s for your nieces and nephews. This is something I want to implement in my life so thank you for the suggestion! I can’t wait to give and give more. One of my mentors says that is the best thing about making money is the ability to give more.
Very timely. I like the stewardship concept. I just wish the new tax plan continued to give that last nudge towards giving. With the new SALT restrictions, many of us will be taking the standard deduction…and charitable giving may decline a bit.
By the way I learned about donating appreciated shares from this website. I look forward to doing it again.
Start a Donor Advised Fund in 2017. There’s still time! https://www.physicianonfire.com/the-sunday-best-12-17-2017/#daf
Yes – we are looking into it (especially the Fidelity option since I’m only 1.5 years out of fellowship and don’t have the financial freedom to give 25k to Vanguard). The question is whether it makes more sense to do this in 2017 as we are subject to AMT or to wait until 2018-9 and try to make a substantial enough donation to a DAF that we can itemize (AGI this year ~310k). Alternatively, we are looking to prepay some of our charitable donations this week.
Here’s an interesting article from the NYTimes that talks about bunching donations through a donor advised so that you can continue to direct donations on an annual basis, but still take advantage of the recently passed higher standard deduction (every other year). Sounds like something similar to what WCI did this year:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/20/your-money/tax-plan-donations-charities.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fyour-money&action=click&contentCollection=your-money®ion=stream&module=stream_unit&version=latest&contentPlacement=3&pgtype=sectionfront
You can learn all about DAFs (vs just directly giving) tomorrow at Physician on FIRE’s site.
Could you explain the new higher standard deduction and why it makes sense to take it next year instead of itemizing? Won’t all your retirement account deductions and everything still grossly outweigh the standard deduction? Or is it because your higher income now puts you into the AMT bracket? Trying to decide if I should prepay my charitable contributions for next year also (making $400k-$500k), married filing jointly.
I love the “dumb questions” because I know the answers to those and it is so life-changing the first time you learn their answers. You’ll look back on this one in a year or two and say, “Well, duh, of course.”
#1 Some deductions are above the line and some are below the line. In general, the below the line ones are the “itemized deductions” that go on Schedule A. You can EITHER take the itemized deductions or the standard deduction. But you can take all of the above the line deductions and still take EITHER the itemized or the standard deduction. Retirement account contributions are above the line. (The line is line 37/38 of Form 1040. Retirement account contributions, at least for the self-employed, are on line 28. Itemized/standard deductions are on line 40.
https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1040.pdf
https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1040sa.pdf
# 2 There are three reasons why many Americans will be taking the standard deduction in 2018 when they itemized for 2017. The first is that the standard deduction has been doubled. So if you don’t have at least twice as many dollars of itemized deductions as the standard deduction, then you’ll now take the standard deduction. The second is that many of the itemized deductions were reduced or eliminated. For example, in 2017 I’ll deduct over $100K in state income and property taxes. In 2018, I would only be able to deduct $10K. Finally, since the tax rates/brackets are dropping (about 3% on average), many people are taking deductions this year instead of next year, even if they would still have more itemized deductions than the standard deduction. This is the main reason I am taking the standard deduction next year. The only deductions I have left on Schedule A are $10K in taxes and charitable contributions. So if frontload the charitable contributions, I’d rather have the $24K standard deduction than the $10K itemized deduction. It’s going to be a little weird going from itemized deductions three times as large as anything I’ve ever had before to the standard deduction, but we’ll still come out ahead overall, even though next year’s tax bill will be higher than it would be if we weren’t stacking. We probably won’t stack going forward, but who knows. I guess we’ll see at the end of 2019, which will be the next opportunity for us to do this.
And no, we’re nowhere near the AMT. WCI, LLC has done very well this year so we pay far more under the regular tax system than we ever would under the AMT system.
Thanks so much for the in depth explanation! I’m looking into prepaying my property taxes this week and now I’ll consider prepaying tithing as well.
Over $100k in UT state and property?! That’s about $2,000,000 in AGI (after retirement contributions)–wow, nice bump this year for WCI!! Congrats!
Not so fast. We’ve had a good year, but not that good. We paid 2016 UT state income taxes in April 2017 and 2017 UT state income taxes in December 2017. Also paid 2017 and 2018 property taxes. If you’re going to bunch, go big or go home.
Well, hopefully you’ll hit it soon :-). It may be worth noting that even if people are not going to bunch their donations every other year (due to the increased standard deduction), it is likely beneficial to pay your 2018 property taxes in 2017 if you plan on exceeding the $10,000 limit for property taxes/state taxes next year and are planning on itemizing next year. It will free up more of the $10,000 cap for state taxes. Experts suggest the law allows for prepayment of 2018 property taxes to count towards deductions in 2017, but not prepayment of 2018 state taxes. Obviously, that’s what you (WCI) are going, but just in case other readers aren’t aware.
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Agreed. Good advice and that’s exactly what I’m doing.
The other thing that you are doing that may benefit some of your readers is to make sure that one pays all of their expected 2017 state taxes before the end of the year (if itemizing). If you wait to pay your 2017 state taxes until after the new year, the payments will be potentially excluded due to the new 2018 cap.
Agreed.
Turns out I’m in AMT for 2017 according to the accountant…so prepaying anything won’t help me this year. Frustrating BUT simpler for this last week of the year.
Are you sure? Charitable deductions are deductible under both systems. Prepaying your taxes might not help though as they’re not a deduction in the AMT system.
Sorry, I wasn’t specific enough in my comment. I meant prepaying taxes won’t help this year. I’m still seeing if I can rally enough cash quick enough to prepay tithing.
I didn’t have any “extra” cash. I used my tax money! I figured that it was reducing the tax bill, so that would cover 46% of it, and I have another 4 months to make up the rest of it.
Ah yes, our billing company already takes taxes out on our income so we don’t have tax money laying around either. We have plenty in a taxable brokerage account but the lag time to get it into our checking account to pay from (or to send the transfer of shares paperwork to the church and have them forward it back to Vanguard) is getting mighty close to the end of the year already. So I’m just trying to figure out exactly how I can prepay tithing in the next 4 days with what is liquid at the moment.
Yup, better hurry if you’re going to do it. I wonder if opening a DAF might help facilitate the rush. Whatever you do, better do it today. Perhaps you could put in the transfer order from the brokerage and do the donation online. We did an online donation a couple of days ago, it told us it would be 2-3 business days. It hasn’t come out of the account yet, but today is the first business day since we did it.
Although our accountant just reminded me that unless we drastically paid down our mortgage this year, we could still have enough interest to deduct that we would itemize deductions next year and not take the standard deduction. Although we are right on the bubble so I need to run the numbers and see. Just refinanced to a 15 year mortgage this year after paying off student loans (3 years earlier than anticipated!) so it’s possible.
Great post. While everyone knows Dickens’ A Christmas Carol, there is another little gem about giving called “The Mansion” by Henry Van Dyke (https://archive.org/details/mansion00vand). It’s a quick read, and it’s something I re-read every year to help me reorient my attitude toward giving.
We own that book and read it every year around Christmas.
WOW, You are very generous by giving away more on charity than what you actually spend, we should all learn from you. Excellent post as usual. BTW if your effective tax rate is 34%, and able to shelter $200k in pre tax money, all I can say is WOW again, well deserved, Merry Christmas!!
We’ve been richly blessed for sure.
The concept of “enough” is an important one for all of us to understand. Once you have “enough” money, you don’t need more and can safely give additional income/wealth away. Not sure we quite have “enough” wealth (at least not without selling the business whose value is pretty volatile and incredibly illiquid), but we certainly have “enough” income and in just a few years should have “enough” wealth without much risk.
So I try to step back and imagine what I would advise myself if I were to come to WCI for advice. I would advise me to spend money on anything that would make me happier, save a whole bunch, and give some away. So that’s what we do. I mean, nobody is going to argue we’re not saving enough money and we couldn’t think of anything else to spend money on this year that would make us any happier. It’s kind of weird, but I actually feel wealthier having given the money away than if I had added it to the portfolio.
Thanks for the post! The only thing I’ll add is it gets interesting when one of the two spouses is still in a scarcity mindset and their parents never gave to charity or had them volunteer. Beliefs are changed over time. Oh, and since this is a physicians post, please consider supporting Duke Radiology and the work they’re doing for Spinal CSF leak research.
Like everything with personal finance, it is critical that partners work together on spending, saving, investing, spending, and giving.
Thank you for this post! I believe that it is so important for physician families to give to charity. First, we have the financial resources to do so. Second, we treat a diverse cross section of people and know that illness, bad luck, and tough choices can affect anyone regardless of their background, behavioral choices, wealth, or where they live.
One way to think about the charitable tax deduction is that the deduction costs the donor less to make a gift. For example, if you want to make a $1,000 gift to the local food bank and your marginal tax rate is 35%, then it will effectively cost you $1,350 to make that $1,000 gift to charity. Unfortunately the recent GOP tax bill will reduce the number of people who will be able to claim the charitable deduction because fewer will itemize due to the increased standard deduction. However, Mark Walker (R) from NC recently introduced a bill that would allow everyone to take this deduction whether or not they itemize.
I think that most people who give do not do so for a tax benefit, but the charitable deduction can influence the amount and how frequently we give. I hope that we as a society continue to celebrate and encourage philanthropy. Our gifts are tangible ways we can support the causes and organizations that mean the most to us.
Whoo Audrey, check your logic
If you keep the $1,000 and are in the 35% tax bracket you pay $350 in taxes and end up with $650
If you donate the $1,000 you won’t have to pay the $350 in taxes so the donation costs you only $650.
I like your concept of “stewardship” of Money. You’ve mentioned this a few times now. Where do you get this from?
We just recently opened a Donor Advised Fund and are pleased so far.
Most people know that giving money to others in need feels good, and I want to know why. You touch in some reasons in your post.
The positive psychology literature suggests that giving increases happiness in the following ways:
Foster a charitable perception of self
Foster a charitable perception of others
Increased sense of cooperation and interdependence
Awareness of ones own good fortune
Perception of self altruism
Perception of self control
Satisfy basic human need for relatedness
Susan Lyubomirsky publishes extensively on this subject.
I hope to get some of this literature into a post eventually. Even though I will continue giving to charity, I still want to know why I do it.
Happy New Year and I hope next year is just as charitable for your family, well deserved!
I think the best explanation was written down by a physician in Luke 19:12-26:
WCI –
The percentage values in your pie chart, are those based off of AGI? In my calculations I’ve been using gross income which I’m pretty sure is incorrect.
Thank you.
What do you mean “incorrect?” You can make a pie chart however you like and it isn’t incorrect. But yes, I use gross income. Why not? That pie chart isn’t my tax return.
After more investigation I see that I was thinking that business expenses (self-employed) came out after gross income on the tax return. I now see that schedule C comes in prior to gross being calculated. I’m trying to learn more about taxes. I think it does make more sense to use gross and not AGI because otherwise some items in the saving category (SEP-IRA, HSA, etc) of the chart wouldn’t be calculated correctly. Am I thinking about this the right way?
Yes, I think so. I certainly don’t count business revenue as part of my gross income.
You meant to say “business expenses”, right? “Business revenue” is my only income (besides investment income).
Well either, really. I count PART of my business revenue…i.e. that part that is left after the business expenses, that is, the profit.