[Editor's Note: Many high-income professional investors first learned about the Backdoor Roth IRA on this site. One of my most popular posts is the tutorial on the process. In the lengthy comments section of that post, many people asked how to handle a Backdoor Roth IRA (especially form 8606) if you contributed in the next calendar year. While it is “cleaner” to make your contribution and your conversion all in the same calendar tax year, you can make your contribution up until your tax filing date of the next year. I was going to write a post on the subject and then, lo and behold, a guest post on the subject showed up in my email box. The writer wanted to stay anonymous and we have no financial relationship.]
Maybe you are a new reader and just saw the light this January. Maybe you were reading up on the Backdoor Roth and December 31 flew by you. Maybe you are new to financial planning and weren’t sure if you’d have enough money to make the $6k contribution this year (Not very WCI of you! See, that’s where the planning portion kicks in). Or maybe you were waiting to see if you could afford your new boat and still have enough left over from your bonus to make the Backdoor Roth happen (please, please don’t let this be the reason — and if it is, for Pete’s sake, don’t admit it here!).
Whatever the reason, you have found yourself ready to do a Backdoor Roth for the previous year. You’re wondering if you can make a non-deductible contribution in 2015 to your 2014 traditional IRA and still get in the back door. If so, how do you do this?
How to Fill Out Form 8606 for Backdoor Roth Late Contributions
Great question. If you’re like me, you re-read the posts on Backdoor Roths here a million times trying to find the answer. You scour other websites but find yourself back here. You locate WCI’s generous image postings of how to fill out Form 8606 but can’t find an example of a procrastinator such as yourself who is contributing late. So instead, you head over to the IRS website, pull down the Form 8606 yourself, and try to make heads or tails of what seems like a foreign language, realizing of course that you are not a CPA but just a DIYer (that is my caveat emptor, by the way).
Below, you will see a Form 8606 filled out with 2014 values in the appropriate boxes, and the numbers for your 2015 Form 8606 in the margin on the right. Don’t worry, I’ll step you through it. Please note that this setup shows a conversion when there have been no gains in the prior year contributions so that there are no taxes due on gains.
Line 3 is your total tIRA contributions, including previous and current year. For 2014, that would be only the $5500. For 2015, that would be the $5500 for last year and the $5500 for this year. For the 2014 year, the answer to the Question in Line 3 is NO, so you enter the amount from Line 3 into Line 14 and skip the rest of Part 1. For your 2015 taxes, Line 4 represents the late contributions you made in 2016 to your 2015 tIRA ($0 since you were diligent this year) and Line 5 represents the late contributions you made in 2014.
Line 6 is the total value of your tIRA on December 31st, this is the information that will affect the pro rata rules. Since you have no previous non-deductible contributions because you have been a good little WCI minion and cleared out previous IRA accounts, this will be $0 as well.
Line 8 you skipped for 2014 because you answered NO to Line 3. In 2015, you will be converting the full amount in your tIRA to a Roth.
Line 11 is the non-taxable portion of your conversion — which, if you’ve done things right, should be the full amount you are converting — $11,000.
Line 14 is the basis in your tIRA for the current year and prior — which should now be $0 in 2015 because you just converted all of it to a Roth (remember, previously it was $5500 for the contribution year 2014 before you converted.)
Line 16 is the amount you converted to Roth. For 2014, that is $0, for 2015 that should be the full $11,000. Line 17 is the non-taxable portion that you converted. This should be $0 for 2014 and $11,000 for 2015. Line 18 is the taxable portion of your conversion. This should be $0 for both years since you did not do any conversion for 2014 and you converted only non-taxable (i.e. already taxed) portions of the tIRA for 2015. [Editor's Note: Whether you're doing your own taxes or paying someone else to prepare them, be extra sure to check that line and make sure it is zero. Many doctors have accidentally paid taxes twice on their Backdoor Roth IRA money.]
Looking Ahead
That should be it, you’re done! Now make sure to make your contributions in the future during the year for which you are contributing — remember, it’s time IN the market that counts, not timing the market!
What do you think? Any questions? Are you doing a Backdoor Roth IRA? If not, why not? Is there anything we can do here at WCI to make it easier for you? Comment below!
Does anyone know… if you do a backdoor roth contribution in 2025 for year 2024, will Vanguard send you a 1099R for 2024? In prior years when I’ve done the backdoor roth during the same calendar year and tax year I have received 1099R, which makes it very easy to report this in Turbotax. If they don’t send me a 1099R for this prior year contribution, how would you report it in Turbotax?
I’d report it as a $7,000 or $8,000 IRA contribution for 2024. Then report the conversion on your 2025 tax return.
If I did a late contribution of $6,500 for 2023 to my Backdoor Roth in 2024, and then I also did a contribution of $7,000 in 2024 for my 2024 Backdoor Roth, would my 1099R list $13,500 as my Gross Distribution and then I would fill out Form 8606 for my 2024 as written in the blog post above? Thank you!
I don’t know what your 1099R says, but it wouldn’t surprise me to see $13,500 listed as a distribution. If you converted it, that’s the conversion amount that goes on line 8 of 8606.
Hi there. Looking for some assistance as my accountant is unfamiliar with backdoor Roth which I thought I well researched with the help of your site. I am filing an extension to make sure I have this all correct and since he is not confident or comfortable with this, thinking I may owe a penalty which I don’t think I do.
So this is for my 2024 taxes (it’s now April 2025). Last year I realized I may need to start doing a Backdoor Roth due to my income. However, to avoid pro rata issues, in 2024 I converted a small rollover IRA (from a previous 401k) of about $6,900 into my Roth. I did this with understanding I would have to pay taxes on this amount but would leave my IRA balances at $0 by end of 2024. So my first question, why does my accountant believe I would owe a 10% penalty on this in addition to paying the taxes on this $6,900? And where does this $6,900 go on my 8606?
For my second set of questions. Fast forward to this year 2025, I opened up a traditional IRA. I made my 2024 contribution (late) and then converted it my Roth IRA. I later found out a week later there was like 75 cents in the traditional IRA which I then also converted to my Roth. Now about a month later there is $1 and change in my traditional Roth (apparently some dividend which I don’t understand as I made the contribution and conversion as soon as I could). I have not converted this extra $1 and change and was thinking to leave it and combine with my 2025 contribution which I will convert. Is that the best idea? And does the initial accrued 75 cents and the subsequent accrued $1 and change go on my 2024 taxes anywhere? Or just on 2025 taxes. I plan to eventually make my 2025 contribution and conversion this year as well (haven’t yet). Then moving forward next year will keep my conversions and contributions the same year.
This is very overwhelming so appreciate if able to answer these detailed questions.
Can you do an update on these instructions except on how to do it with turbo tax?
Harder to do now that I’m hiring out tax prep. I think your best bet would be something on The Finance Buff site.