[Editor's Note: Today's post originally published as one of my regular columns at Physician's Money Digest in 2016. Bonds become less and less attractive to people the further we move into a stock bull market, when in reality, the opposite probably ought to be occurring!]
It is well-known that the further we go into a bull market, the more frequently we will hear the question, “Why not just invest 100% of my portfolio in stocks?” There is a well-known trend of threads about 100% stock portfolios on the popular Bogleheads.org investing forum, for instance. These threads are a daily occurrence during bull markets, then go away completely in bear markets. In addition, I am seeing more and more articles in the financial press and the blogosphere suggesting bonds are unnecessary and even harmful.
Now, I am no bonds apologist by any means. I have never held more than 25% of my portfolio in bonds of any kind. But to ignore this important asset class completely is a mistake, in my opinion, for many reasons that should at least be understood before someone decides on a 100% stock portfolio for the long run. Worldwide, approximately $82 trillion is invested in bonds, compared to just $55 trillion invested in stocks. Ignoring 60% of the investments in the world gives up a lot of diversification.
Let’s look at five of the arguments being put forth against bonds, one at a time, along with the reasons why it may not be as clear-cut as you might at first think.
5 Arguments Against Bonds (And 5 Arguments For Them)
#1 Stocks Will Have Higher Returns
Stocks represent ownership in a company, while bonds represent a loan to a company, person, or government entity. When something goes bad with the borrower, the bondholders get their money back first, and only if there is anything left over do stockholders get anything. Bondholders are promised their principal back plus a certain amount of interest periodically. Stockholders aren’t promised anything. Thus, bonds are less risky than stocks.
This risk includes “shallow risk” or volatility — that despite good long-term returns you may have low returns at any intermediate point. It also includes “deep risk” — where permanent loss is possible. Stocks do not become less risky in the long run; they become riskier as there is a wider dispersal of returns and the likelihood of total loss becomes greater. Yes, that risk must be weighed against the risks of inflation and of your money not growing quickly enough to reach your goals, but to pretend that risk goes away if you can just hold on long enough is folly.
In addition, stocks have not historically always had higher returns than bonds. The experience of investors is often colored by that of investors in US stocks over the last 100 years. One of the best-known examples is Japan, where the Nikkei stock index peaked at 38,915.87 on December 29th, 1989. How long did it take to get back to that point? Well, we don’t know yet. After 32 years it is only at 28,730. Now, this is ignoring dividends, but also inflation, and is a good demonstration of just how bad things can be.
The experience of the US stock investor in the 20th century is rather unique in the history of the world. The future need not resemble the past. It is entirely possible for bond returns to outpace stock returns for 10, 20, 30, or even 50 or more years. When choosing an asset allocation, you are not only deciding what you think is most likely to happen, but also how sure you are that will happen. You must also consider the consequences of being wrong. I agree that stocks will probably outpace bonds during my investing career, but I’m not sure enough of that to put every investing dollar I have into stocks, especially given the consequences.
Bonds diversify stocks. Not only do they moderate the volatility of stocks, but they are entirely different. There is low correlation between the returns of the two different types of assets. Often when stocks zig, bonds will zag. Even if your bonds are only returning 2% or 3%, that sure beats the -30% return that stocks may see in a nasty bear market.
In addition, many types of bonds have returns similar to those of stocks. In general, the longer the term and the less creditworthy the borrower, the better the return. Peer to peer loans and hard money lending can have returns of 7% to 12% or more, for instance. Junk bonds can also have quite high returns.
#2 Stocks Are More Tax-Efficient
Some have argued to go 100% stocks because stocks are more tax-efficient than bonds. Not only is this allowing the tax tail to wag the investment dog (the most tax-efficient investments are those that lose money), but it is not necessarily even true. Many investors have most or even all of their investments inside tax-protected retirement accounts, where tax-efficiency doesn’t matter at all. Outside of retirement accounts, many stocks such as REITs and other companies with high yields are not particularly tax-efficient. Meanwhile, some bonds can be very tax-efficient, such as savings bonds and municipal bonds.
#3 I am Young and Have a High-Risk Tolerance
Investors in their 20s may argue that their youth and long time horizon allows them to take the additional risk of a 100% equity portfolio. In reality, the typical 25-year-old has LESS capacity to take risk than an older investor for two reasons.
First, their savings are not very large. It may not tide them over in the event of job loss or other personal financial catastrophe.
Second, they have limited investing experience. An investor who started investing at any point in the last eight years has never actually invested through a bear market. All the risk tolerance questionnaires in the world pale in comparison to the best indicator of risk tolerance there is — your own behavior in a real, honest to goodness, severe bear market.
Those who invested through the 2008 to 2009 Global Financial Crisis have a pretty good idea of their risk tolerance. They have an even better idea if they also invested through the 2000 to 2002 Tech Meltdown. Reading and understanding financial history is important. Estimating your risk tolerance is important. But it is far better to dramatically underestimate your risk tolerance than to slightly overestimate it and end up selling low in a bear market.
The truth is that for a young investor the savings rate matters far more than the investing return. So what if you eke out an extra 1% or 2% on your $10,000 portfolio? You can make that up with a little moonlighting on the side or skipping a single nice restaurant meal. Don’t lose the forest for the trees.
Young investors are also short-sighted in choosing a 100% equity portfolio. If they are truly risk tolerant and want to maximize their investing returns, why stop at 100%? Because it is a nice round number? It is not difficult to design a portfolio with 110%, 150%, or even more exposure to equities using leverage and/or options. Benjamin Graham, the man Warren Buffett looked to as a mentor, argued that you should never have a portfolio with less than 25% bonds (75/25) or more than 75% bonds (25/75.) There is a lot of wisdom in that moderation.
#4 I Am in it for the Long Run
Many investors not only assume that stocks will outperform in the long run, but that they can wait for the long run to spend their money. Job loss, divorce, disability, investment opportunities, career changes, family or personal illnesses, and death can all intervene and require some or all of your money in the short term. Experienced investors have learned that having some of your money outside the influence of the stock market can be very handy on occasion.
#5 Bond Yields are at Historic Lows
Some people argue for a 100% stock portfolio based on the current low expected returns of bonds. The best estimate of future bond returns is their current yield, at least for very high-quality bonds. For example, the Vanguard Intermediate Term Treasury Bond Fund currently yields just 1% (0.48% in 2021). Corporate bonds of the same duration are yielding about 2.75% (1.60% in 2021). These yields seem really low, and they are. However, inflation is also quite low. In the 1970s and 1980s inflation was often in the double digits. In the 1990s, it was mostly between 3% and 6%. In 2015 it was 0.12%. It hasn’t even been 2% since 2012 (1.24-2.44% since original publication of this article). So the real, after-inflation, yield of bonds is not nearly as bad as it might at first appear. Corporate bonds are currently besting inflation by around 2% (equalling inflation in 2021). That isn’t the 4% real yield you could get in 1990, but it isn’t that different.
[Update for 2021 Republication: It's interesting to go back, read, and correct the above paragraph, originally penned in 2016, and reflect on bond returns between 2016 and 2021. Despite bond yields being very low in 2016 (and everyone saying “interest rates have to go up”), you can see that interest rates did NOT have to go up and that bond returns were actually quite good over the last 5 years. Take a look:
There's a good lesson there that actual returns are not always anywhere near expected returns.]
In addition, one must consider what stock returns are likely to be in an environment in which expected real returns for bonds are low. When bond returns are unattractive, more investors move money into stocks, bidding up their price, and lowering future returns. In short, when expected bond returns are low, so are expected stock returns. The uneducated investor sees the low bond yields, but assumes that his stock returns will be equivalent to historical norms, which becomes increasingly unlikely as their price is bid up further and further.
Choosing an asset allocation is a very personalized decision. The “100% stock portfolio” is always going to be controversial and perhaps may even be right for you, but be very careful choosing that allocation if you are relatively new to investing. The consequences of a slightly overaggressive portfolio are dramatically worse than a slightly under aggressive one.
Do you invest in 100% stocks? Why or why not? Comment below!
Appreciate the great discussion here.
I recently listened to an interview with Todd Tresidder (FinancialMentor.com) on the ChooseFI podcast (episode 52) that WCI has also appeared on. Todd is apparently big on risk vs reward evaluations and feels like there is a bond bubble. He had so many ominous things to say about bonds and referenced an article he published on the matter:
https://financialmentor.com/investment-advice/investment-strategy-alternative/bond-bubble/9064
Curious what everyone thinks about this.
Crystal ball so cloudy….
Not all bonds are the same. A lot of the risk from bonds comes from those with a high default risk (e.g. high-yield) or interest rate risk with long-duration bonds.
Keeping bonds short and high-quality (and maybe some inflation-protected bonds) reduce volatility in your portfolio. It makes for a smoother ride to your destination.
It depends on your emotions and whether you act on them. Do you love the thrill of roller coasters? I would rather have a slow, boring drive up a steady country road. More wealth each and every year. Steady as she goes.
Really timely post as I’ve seen and spoke w so many advocating for a 100% stock portfolio. I’ve even been called too conservative for my 20% bond allocation. But I am a bee investor. I invested into the bottom of the coronabear market so I haven’t experienced a drop per se. And like you point out, everyone feels their stock crystal ball is so clear but really we are all contributing to its overvaluation, exactly why having a bonds could be a good hedge. The point is that we have no idea and should set up a buffer to protect ourselves no matter what happens. And that is what a reasonable bond allocation does!
We live in unusual times. So far it seems like the best use for bonds is as a speculative attack on the US dollar. CEO Michael Saylor of Microstrategy continues this strategy. Already raised $650 million a few months ago via bonds to buy bitcoin via debt. Now proposing to raise more debt via bonds to buy even more bitcoin!
https://www.microstrategy.com/en/investor-relations/press/microstrategy-announces-proposed-private-offering-of-600m-of-convertible-senior-notes
Very risky but has paid out HUGE so far. Seems like the only way out of this economic mess we are in is to print more dollars and devalue the dollar making debt easier to pay off over longer time horizons.
AGE IN BONDS-John Bogle
Graham says 25% bonds
If you are nearing retirement, THINK BONDS to avoid SORR
Jim, I noticed that when you updated your portfolio a few years back, you decreased your bond allocation by 5% which is contrary to the typical recommendation of getting more conservative with time. Any particular reason for this change?
Also, thoughts about Total Bond vs Treasury index funds? After the COVID crash, there was a lot of talk on Bogleheads about people going all treasuries with their fixed income allocation.
Depends on how you look at that change. I decided to take a little more risk with 5% of my 25% bond allocation. That 5% originally went into Peer to Peer Loans, a very risky type of fixed income. After a few years, I decided that I was better off earning 6-12% with a loan backed by real estate than a loan backed by nothing. So I took that 5% out of peer to peer loans and put it into debt real estate. Then at some point, I called that part of my real estate allocation instead of my bond allocation, but nothing actually changed. It was all documented over the course of 6 or 8 years in 5 or so blog posts.
I have a 55/30/10/5 portfolio of equities, bonds, cash and alternatives. I was closer to 100 equities during most of my accumulation phase. I think that its a fair trade to lessen the volatility of your portfolio once it is larger than you need. You don’t really need to play hard when you’ve already won the game.
Do you invest in I Bonds at all? Any thoughts on those compared to a Total Bond fund?
Good in taxable. Nice TIPS alternative. Difficult to buy a lot of them at once as you can only buy $10K electronically and $5K paper (with a tax return) a year.
Say you’re 35yo and invested in 100% equities.
But you also live in a VHCOL area and have 30% of your net worth tied to the equity of your house.
Would you guys still recommend include bonds in your portfolio? Asking for a friend 😆
I don’t see why having a bunch of money in your house would have anything to do with your investment portfolio. I’d ignore that aspect.
I am all about 100% stocks, was 80/20 before the bear and lost sleep because stocks didn’t crash enough! Nor was the crash long enough to boost my retirement, which is in 26 years. Just reading a lot of market history given enough time the market goes up, and being a young doc risk capacity is pretty high too. I think young docs far away from retirement can justify a 100% stock allocation, and these characteristics sort of make the great Jack Bogle and Ben Graham’s advice not really apply. But what scares me is that the coronabear was not a true risk tolerance test, nor was the 5 figure amount I had lost the time. But hey, this is the price you pay for those great stock market returns. I am continually trying to train my brain to look at a market crash as a godsend, to frame it as stocks on sale, to associate a bear not with fear in the amygdala, but the dopamine rush when gambling at the casino. The stock market going up is like my wife yelling at me, while a market crash is the doorway where I’m actually praised by my wife and my ADHD son listens to his teachers and doesn’t hit his sister.
You guys might tell that I’m a neurologist 🙂 Not sure if these associations I am making will actually work, but hey, I’ll try anything to teach myself to never sell during a bear.
I am making extra payments on my mortgage. Would it be reasonable to treat that extra payment as part of my bond allocation (since it’s like a “negative bond” with a guaranteed return) and reduce or even eliminate my bond allocation accordingly with my investments?
Yes, so long as you can avoid selling low in a market downturn. More details here and in a post coming up next week.
https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/100-stock-portfolio/
Great post. Any suggestions on bond funds or etfs. I am trying to mimic your portfolio but choosing a bond fund seems much more confusing. Obviously would like a tax exempt choice for the taxable account and best yield for the retirement accounts.
In taxable I use the Vanguard intermediate muni fund. In tax protected, I’m currently using the Schwab TIPS ETF and the TSP G fund. Also a fan of the Vanguard intermediate taxable bond fund but most Vanguard bond funds are great.
Thank you, sir!
I’d read this post in February; a reader over at jlcollinsnh.com re-posted it there.
I am grateful for the opportunity to -re-read your thorough, thoughtful, intelligent 2016 re-post this year, March 24, 2021. Much more ‘sunk in’ the second-time around!
Much appreciation for your excellent, insightful posts on the blog!
Much health and happiness to you and yours.
For someone who is trying to keep a relatively simple portfolio with around 20% bonds in a Vanguard total bond fund, do you think there is incremental value in splitting bonds with the Vanguard TIPS fund as you’ve advocated? Seems like these funds have performed similarly since inception, but the ER of the TIPS fund is about 4x that of the total bond fund. Does the total bond fund contain TIPS? I’m just not sure if I should add some TIPS or just stick with the total bond fund.
dude, as per Forbes copied and pasted below, looks like vanguard does not have TIPS in it’s total bond index fund:
“TIPS are not included in the Vanguard Total Bond Market Index Fund because they are not included in the Barclay Capital Aggregate Bond Market index, which is an index of investment grade bonds that trade in the U.S. Other fixed income asset classes not included in VBMFX are high yield corporate bonds and tax-exempt ”
also, the Vanguard short term TIPS fund is only 5bps! ticker is VTIP.
yeah inflation can definitely be hedged though with the rest of your portfolio, and the real question is do you think you are protected enough with your equity portion of your portfolio from inflation. Historically using the 4% rule and anywhere from 50-75% equities your portfolio during drawdown lasted 30years and this included the 70’s and early 80’s, period where inflation would get up into the double digits! Knowing this I myself will not add TIPS to my bond portfolio. However, black swans can happen so if makes you comfortable, add some TIPS like Jim does.
Great perspective, thanks for your response. Do you think it’s reasonable to just use Vanguard total bond market index for all of my bonds? That’s what I’ve been doing but honestly that’s because I don’t really understand bonds all that well and I’m trying to keep it simple. The rest of my portfolio is total market, total international, REIT, and a little small value tilt.
abso-freakin-lutely. Dominating asset allocation man 🙂 Vanguard total bond index is well diversified, low cost among the bond universe, and the other 80% of your portfolio in equities and REIT’s is excellent to hedge inflation. The only thing I would caution is later when you are about to retire and bonds make a bigger part of your portfolio (I am assuming you’re not staying 80% equities), to maybe add some TIPS b/c as equities go down in your asset allocation your hedge again inflation goes with it.
Certainly within the realm of reasonable, yes. You don’t have to own EVERYTHING.
No. I wouldn’t. Stocks are an excellent inflation hedge, you have 80% of your portfolio in stocks, so you don’t need to hedge some of your bonds against inflation as well. It’s just adding a layer of complexity, and you, as I do, value simplicity, so I’d stick with total bond.
Really appreciate the advice from you both. Glad to hear that I don’t really need to make this more complicated. Thanks again!
np dude happy to help 🙂
Do I think so? Yes, otherwise I wouldn’t do it. No guarantee of course.
Certainly I wouldn’t make the decision based on miniscule ER differences. “4X” sounds like a lot. 8 basis points, of course, does not. Kind of like those studies that show “Half as likely to kill you!” when the chances of it killing you are 0.00002% and 0.00001%.
No TIPS in TBM. If you want TIPS, you’ll need to add them yourself.
Jim,
Any recommendations on a good way compare bond yields? Any good website or tools your recommend? I have about 35% of my taxable bonds in Vanguard Tax-Exempt Muni Bond (VTEB) , 35% in DFA Intermediate Tax Exempt Muni (DFTIX), and the rest in other DFA Bond Funds (DFSHX, DFEQX, and DFTEX). Trying to decide if I should leave it as is or convert some or all of the DFA funds to something else (probably VTEB).
I am using Schwab US TIPS ETF in my taxable.
Thanks.
Thanks.
I use Vanguard.com and Morningstar.com a lot. You can use the DFA website too. Should be able to get all the info you need from those 3.
6 bond funds would be way too complex for me. I’d simplify.