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  • Avatar EMscout 
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    We are a Subaru family and we are all up for new tires.
    We live in a Northern State with hot summers and lots of snow and ice.

    Narrowed it down to the costco version of the all season Michelin Defender T+H (X Tour) for my wife (in town driving, some highway). I travel more on the highway and was thinking about the highly rated all-weather tire Michelin CrossClimate+.
    We have no interest in the hassle and cost of 2 pairs (summer/winter). The all-weather seems like a good compromise as it specializes in winter driving but can be used year long.

    Anyone have experience with the latter?

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    jfoxcpacfp jfoxcpacfp 
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    Bump! Are there some Michelin users hanging here who can opine for @emscout?

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    Avatar Peds 
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    lots of snow and ice.

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    sounds like a perfect candidate for snow tires…

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    Avatar AR 
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    Bump! Are there some Michelin users hanging here who can opine for @emscout?

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    I think that the other tire thread pretty clearly showed that everyone basically evaluates their tire purchases by nearly entirely subjective feelings of performance and safety.  Sometimes that is augmented by doing some online research (consumer reports, etc..)

    So, I don’t think anyone here is going to really give you anything great to go with.

     

    I personally use some sort of all season Michellin from costco on my cars.  They seem to drive well under a variety of conditions and I’m still alive.   Not sure how much that helps, but that’s all I know.

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    jfoxcpacfp jfoxcpacfp 
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    lots of snow and ice.

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    sounds like a perfect candidate for snow tires…

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    @peds – this is bizarre. I have no snow and ice opinion. But I don’t think you really intended that. No clue how it showed up under my screen name.

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    Bump! Are there some Michelin users hanging here who can opine for @emscout?

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    I think that the other tire thread pretty clearly showed that everyone basically evaluates their tire purchases by nearly entirely subjective feelings of performance and safety.  Sometimes that is augmented by doing some online research (consumer reports, etc..)

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    yeah, I was ignoring because of the recent six page thread.

    plus, I really didn’t know where to go after this portion:

    specializes in winter driving but can be used year long

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    but, jfox, because you asked: “high performance” bridgestone summers, “high performance” bridgestone blizzaks.  costco with rebate.

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    Avatar EMscout 
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    G,

    Sorry, I did not notice the recent thread. I will take a look.
    The All Weather tires (just a handful exist) are in fact more of a winter tire that can be driven year long. There is a market that exists of drivers that would prefer one set of tires for the entire year. All-season tires are not engineered for ice/snow. All weather tires are. I agree the best tire for the snow is a snow tire. The second best tire is an all-weather tire.

    https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a15338788/all-weather-tires-explained-merging-all-seasons-and-winter-tires/

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    uptoolate uptoolate 
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    Michelins generally.  The CrossClimate+ is reportedly an outstanding tire and Costco has it so I am going to put it on my daily driver but given that I am retired I can choose not to go out in the middle of a snowstorm anymore.  Our other two vehicles have Michelin Premier A/S in summer and X-Ice 3’s for the winter. As good as the CrossClimate+ is supposed to be (it has softer rubber for cold weather driving but apparently still wears quite well), I don’t think it can be as good as snows in bad winter weather.

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    Thanks. Agreed, no way the crossclimate+ is as good as winter tires. It does appear to be the 2nd best option.

    My costco does not carry the crossclimate+. What State are you in (or country)? I wonder if I can ask them to order it even if it is not listed on costco.com if it sold at other shops.

    G, I read the 6 page thread from July 4th. Did not deliver as the conversation was taken off topic 🙂

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    uptoolate uptoolate 
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    Yes I’m in Ontario, Canada.  When Michelin started selling the CrossClimate+ in North America they only had a limited number of tire sizes. This year they have made more sizes available. I think the tire was originally released in Europe. I think I saw it listed when I checked out TireRack last year looking to see if they had additional sizes in the US.  They didn’t at that time but they did have them in the same sizes as in Canada IIRC. I’d check with them.

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    Did not deliver as the conversation was taken off topic

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    yeah, the off-topic issue was kind of the point of ignoring this thread…. 😉

    I live in a place where we have a fair bit of snow; the major roads usually get cleared up quick-ish, but there will often be compacted snow in our neighborhood for quite awhile.  we have summer and winter tires for all vehicles.  I see the data (taken with a grain of salt, from the tire companies), but I definitely notice a difference qualitatively.  For snows, traction (getting started, making it up the driveway, and staying on line for a turn).  And for summers, much quieter, better gas mileage, and definitely less drag/rolling friction (I have a particular corner coming home that I use as a yardstick)…I’ll just assume they’re safer (?).

    the hassle of swapping is a non-issue.  I just coordinate it with oil change, so an extra 60 min a year?  it’ll take a heck of a lot longer to dig out of a ditch, or put on chains, or deal with insurance/repairs after a wreck.  for similar reasons, the cost is a non-issue.

    my analogy: I wear basketball shoes to play basketball, climbing shoes to climb rocks, running shoes to run, dive booties to dive….

     

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    Avatar EMscout 
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    Thanks!
    Tirerack has my size. They appear to be the exclusive vendor in the States. Maybe I’ll make a trip to Costco Canada 😉

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    Avatar EMscout 
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    G,

    I appreciate your perspective. Out of curiosity, where do you store the sets in the off-season? I see the logic in your argument and perhaps can reconsider.. we have a few more months.. or do we? Never know anymore.

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    stacked in the garage.  the winters (and the summer racers) wear fairly fast, so there are often only 2 sets sitting around between the 3 vehicles….

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    We are a Subaru family and we are all up for new tires.
    We live in a Northern State with hot summers and lots of snow and ice.

    Narrowed it down to the costco version of the all season Michelin Defender T+H (X Tour) for my wife (in town driving, some highway). I travel more on the highway and was thinking about the highly rated all-weather tire Michelin CrossClimate+.
    We have no interest in the hassle and cost of 2 pairs (summer/winter). The all-weather seems like a good compromise as it specializes in winter driving but can be used year long.

    Anyone have experience with the latter?

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    hassle? expense? dedicated snow tires are a no brainer.

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