Strider_91ParticipantStatus: StudentPosts: 181Joined: 05/05/2017
Does anybody have a book they can recommend on medical economics that is written in such a way where it doesn’t feel like I am reading a text book?
I am specifically curious about why some specialties tend to make more money than others. For example, why does ortho (in general) make more money than urology or ent?
Why does pediatrics everything pay less than it’s non pediatric counterpart?
I would also be interested in the economics of hospitals, surgery centers, how insurance companies set their prices etc.June 9, 2019 at 6:39 pm MST #220551ENT DocParticipantStatus: PhysicianPosts: 3567Joined: 01/14/2017
Understanding salary is a simple function of Porter’s 5 Forces as well as the payments determined by the FFS model. Every specialty has an average steady state – see X patients at level Y visits, do A surgeries as an average of B RVUs. That is what I mean by the payments determined by the FFS model.
Regarding the economics of hospitals, surgery centers, pricing, etc. that’s a gigantic can of worms you’re opening up. There are some hospital finance books you can find on Amazon – you might find it worthwhile to look at the curriculum and suggested reading for some prominent MHA degrees. They’ll almost assuredly touch on some of this. Next, you will have to read the different final rules that CMS puts out to really understand the payment systems. They’re only about 1000 pages each. And regarding the insurance world you’ll have to learn about various ratios, underwriting, and state and federal regulations that affect their bottom line. Reading over United’s 10k might also be a good start.
And if that all wasn’t enough you might have time to focus on your studies. 😉June 9, 2019 at 6:56 pm MST #220558pulmdocParticipantStatus: PhysicianPosts: 434Joined: 09/19/2016
Pediatric subspecialties have 2 sources of downward financial pressure; one is that the job market tends to cluster at academic centers where pay is less, and the second is that chronically ill children who need peds pulm, GI etc are disproportionately on Medicaid.
There is far more intra-speciality pay variation than one might expect; even throwing out ultra-low paying academic/VA jobs you may see 3-5x difference in pay for the same specialty depending on location, volume, payor mix, practice efficiency, etc. This matters far more than specialty.June 9, 2019 at 7:23 pm MST #220575TimParticipantStatus: AccountantPosts: 3275Joined: 09/18/2018
Both of the above gave some factors.
Supply (physicians) and demand (patients) different in some aspects. 1) pediatric tend to be healthier than adults 2) the illnesses are rarely elective 3) The patient stream for many specialties tend to require association with a pediatric hospital . 4) Less opportunity for specialists have a sufficient volume without working for a healthcare system or hospital. 5) Can you think of a specialist that would work in PP? Take ortho, would it be with a pediatric group or an ortho group? 6) Few opportunities for ASC’s and ancillary opportunities.
Quite honestly, the economics conceptually are supply and demand.
Quite a few moving pieces, good luck with med school.June 10, 2019 at 3:03 am MST #220631