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  • Avatar guitarguy23 
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    Hello all,

    New Partner in a pcp practice in new town.

    Why would my fellow partners be cagy with sharing who they refer out to? I have asked a few but they seem reluctant to share. Just wondering as this is all new to me! Thanks. 🙂

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    ENT Doc ENT Doc 
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    That’s odd.

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    Avatar DocNextDoor 
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    Agree this is odd.

    Are you part of a large multi specialty organization that wants you to refer within the system? Maybe you partners refer out of the system and are reluctant to say.

    Would they be willing to share who the would Not refer to at least?

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    Lordosis Lordosis 
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    Are you part of a large multi specialty organization that wants you to refer within the system? Maybe you partners refer out of the system and are reluctant to say.

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    ^^This is the most likely reason I can think of.

     

    They could not have any good recommendations and do not want to stick their neck out a little.  However it would be easy enough to say something like “I used Doc XYZ before and have not had any bad feedback, But I really do not know him”

     

    “Never let your sense of morals prevent you from doing what is right.”

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    The White Coat Investor The White Coat Investor 
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    Maybe the docs are really busy and they don’t want to make it harder for their patients to get in? Certainly those docs aren’t opposed to you knowing who they are!

    Agree with the potential out of organization referral issue.

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    ENT Doc ENT Doc 
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    It y’all are part of a MSG and people are referring out it’s not like they can hide from that exactly.  That should be known to the admin/leadership.  The entire point of a MSG is to have self-contained care for ease of communication, simplicity for the patient, and allow for profit on all aspects of care.  So no point in being coy about the referral info.  They’re being looked at regardless, or at least they should be.

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    jfoxcpacfp jfoxcpacfp 
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    Good sources to refer clients to are critical in our practice. I realize – not a medical practice – but referring a client to a professional who does not live up to our standards reflects on everyone in our practice. I won’t refer anybody before having at least 1 personal meeting and doing a lot of homework. It takes time so it is especially important. B/c we don’t ask for referrals in return, it can be lucrative to be on our (very short) list, so we are really careful. [I will presume all fee-only practices have the same guidelines in place, btw – doubt we are unique in this.]

    Is that the culture with your group or is it a cutthroat-style practice, everyone for him/herself? If so (and I hope it’s not), I feel bad for you. It sounds as if something may be amiss, but WCI may have the solution.

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    MPMD MPMD 
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    your primary care partners don’t want to tell you what specialists they refer to?

    are you concierge or something? that sounds crazy.

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    Avatar wcinewbie 
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    How big of a town is it? Do patients go to who their doctors refer or whoever their insurance company says they must go? You can always ask your staff where the other docs refer.

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