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  • Avatar jhwkr542 
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    Well we had to take 16 weeks of family medicine between our 3rd and 4th years, so a zoo elective would’ve been a welcome reprieve from the propaganda.

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    Lithium Lithium 
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    I had some sweet classes fourth year. Dermatology depicted in film, psych in the cinema, internal medicine case files and an ethics in medicine class. For each of those classes we met once a week and I watched movies or read articles to prepare for the class discussions. This was after I’d taken a year off after having my son and I was doing whatever gave me the most time with him. But the 2 film classes were actually great tools for helping to appreciate the patient perspective, understanding bias and stigma and developing empathy.

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    When I was an MS4, I only recall a couple of interesting discussion-based classes, and they were always full.  I spent almost the whole time doing Sub-I’s, critical care electives (30 hour Q4 call), interviews, or otherwise I was stuck in an IM specialty clinic.

    It’s probably a good thing I wasn’t teaching the psych in cinema class.  Some of my favorite material comes from Hellraiser 2, Nightmare on Elm Street 3, and Cult of Chucky.  Not much empathy to be gained from that, but lots of amazing one-liners!

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    Avatar SLC OB 
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    you would think I was fluent (if you do speak Spanish, you would know I can get by but my conjugation is not great). 

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    Curiosity, have you certified your Spanish capability or do you still need to call in a certified translator? My understanding is this can be a big time burner with a bilingual population. Has it been useful other than conversational purposes is the curiosity. Thanks.

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    Not certified. I always offer a translator, via iPad, but rarely do they want to use it. They tell me my Spanish is great… but my kids tell me otherwise! (They went through a Spanish Immersion grades school and just finished “Spanish 3- as a native Spanish speaker” (Junior level class) as Freshman and got A’s. They say my accent it atrocious but my patients love that I speak Spanish and obviously are trying to communicate with them in their language.

    I find, in my population, that the Mexicans (which is my main Spanish Speaking patients) are not litigious. They tend to vaccinate when recommended, they say things like “I will do what ever you think is best Doctor.”  It is my favorite population. I can’t stand my worried well patients, but that is another topic.

    As for usefulness in general conversation, not really… except for speaking to some of our mainly Spanish Speaking employees. They love when I speak to them in Spanish and ask about their Nietas (grandchildren)…. but I do joke that I could get anyone a prostitute in Mexico (as an Ob/Gyn, I know a lot of “female” terms!) 😉

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    Avatar Tim 
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    SLC OB,
    “find, in my population, that the Mexicans (which is my main Spanish Speaking patients) are not litigious. ”

    Just FYI,
    Malpractice is extremely expensive in south Texas and the southern border. All the way up the coast the recommendation is NOT to do your own translation but have another “professional “ called so communication has two witnesses. Primarily in the disclosure and informed consent areas. The Spanish speaking population is targeted by some in the legal profession. Unfamiliarity has led to file and settle even with tort reform. The trend seems to be accelerating.

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    Lordosis Lordosis 
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    Well we had to take 16 weeks of family medicine between our 3rd and 4th years, so a zoo elective would’ve been a welcome reprieve from the propaganda.

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    Funny we had a mandatory surgical sub specialty rotation. Only 6 weeks was required for FM.    My med school gave lip service to primary care but they push out a lot of specialists.  I think they figured our who has more to donate back.  😉

     

    I agree the zoo elective sounds fun but I think the argument is that 70% of current students expect someone else will be paying their loans.  This is bordering on the tax payer paying for a vacation.

    “Never let your sense of morals prevent you from doing what is right.”

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