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  • Vagabond MD Vagabond MD 
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    An awful lot of brain cells are used in emphasizing building pretax retirement accounts and the importance of having a handle on the spending rates.
    Spending levels are usually after tax.
    What effective tax rates do you plug in?

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    yes taxes are another unknown in the future. I use which is 15%  But I have no idea really.

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    15% is a low estimate. 25-30%, depending on how much money you and are are earning, whether you are going to be paying state tax or not and where your moment is located (taxable, IRA, Roth, pension, etc.)

    One of the 2018 guest bloggers @WCI, a retired dentist in his early 70’s, IIRC, had his living expenses in retirement divided into four equal quadrants:

    25% Necessities

    25% Discretionary

    25% Give away (to family and charity)

    25% Taxes

    He may have labeled them somewhat differently, but that is how I am modeling it for my retirement future.

    As for the future of markets, I think 3-5% real, from where we are right now, is probably a realistic number. I admittedly do not spend much time thinking about it.

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    Drop it into MD Drop it into MD 
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    You are probably right.  About half of my money will be pretax.  I do live in a state with income tax but no idea if I would stay here into retirement.  We live on about 100K now and that includes mortgage and daycare so I am hopeful that we would be able to live on less someday or live grander on the same.  I should probably expect at least 20% tax but hopefully not upper 20s since that is where I am now.  Thanks.

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    30 years? Very hard to know, but my guess is:
    4-7% nominal return for next 30 years with an 80:20 stock:bond index fund portfolio.
    I hope.
    We plan on living off 2-4%
    Sequence of returns risk will keep me working until we can comfortably live on 2-3%.
    Taxes are going to increase to cover:
    1. SS
    2. federal deficit
    3. new government spending
    I am worried they will add some kind of “wealth tax” to pay for the above, but it is beyond my control.

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